Won't start

Started by MagnaDaddy, November 12, 2006, 10:13:49 AM

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MagnaDaddy

Hey, My engine is back together!!!!!

I found out that adjusting valves is best done with four hands(get a friend to help for sure)

Now it's just re-assembly time.    :D
Ken Strauss
Hutto, TX

MOOT#436
2005 Yamaha Royal Star Tour Deluxe

MagnaDaddy

Another question:
Can I put the carbs back on the engine while it's out and I can get to everything easier?  It was a real pain getting it off the engine while it was still mounted in the bike.
Ken Strauss
Hutto, TX

MOOT#436
2005 Yamaha Royal Star Tour Deluxe

MagnaMan

We tried that on Jeff's V-65... and the answer was no. We had to pull the carb bank back off to get it into the frame. Don't know about the V45 but it may be similar.
Jesse
Moot #358
'99 Magna (Halloween theme paint job)
Racetech Cartridge Emulators in front forks, Progressive 444s on the rear. Best mods I've ever made to this bike.
Houston

MagnaDaddy

It sure is tempting   :?
Ken Strauss
Hutto, TX

MOOT#436
2005 Yamaha Royal Star Tour Deluxe

antman

YES (at least on my V65).  You can take the engine out and put it back in with the carbs still attached.  You need two people to guide it back in.  My buddy and I had the engine on a jack and we worked together to get it in.  It will go if you get the angle right.  And it is a very tight fit past the frame piece up by the triple tree.  

Bottom line: yes it will work if you have help and patience.  If lacking either, save the headache and take the carbs off.  It also helps to talk nice to the old girl.

Good luck.

MagnaDaddy

Excellent.  We'll know for sure after this weekend when I give it a shot !
Ken Strauss
Hutto, TX

MOOT#436
2005 Yamaha Royal Star Tour Deluxe

MagnaDaddy

I discovered a great way to get the carbs back on those fool boots.  They look to defy the lasts of physics when you first set it on the engine.

Take the front boots completely loose from the head.  place them loosly kinda cock-eyed so they tilt towards the front of the engine.  Don't forget to put the bands on as loose as they go.  Just clearing the  back of the connectors on the head.  Install the back bank on the rubber boots first and then Like Greg suggested in another thread get some help to hold the engine while you straddle it and press the whole carb assembly down.   This works so much better than any of the other 100 ways I tried it today!
Ken Strauss
Hutto, TX

MOOT#436
2005 Yamaha Royal Star Tour Deluxe

MagnaDaddy

There are also 2 ways to the get the engine back in but they are mutually exclusive.  You either go by the book and remove the rear wheel/driveshaft when you take it out or just pull the engine off the driveshaft.   BUT that determines whether or not you can put it back in with the carbs on or not.  I pulled it out without taking off the dricveshaft, so after a solid hour of manhandling the engine with the carbs on it we put it back on the stand removed the carbs and put it on the bike in about 10 min.....

Live & learn, live & learn  :oops:
Ken Strauss
Hutto, TX

MOOT#436
2005 Yamaha Royal Star Tour Deluxe

MagnaMan

Ken, I think you've discovered it. When we were working on Jeff's V65 we had not removed the rear wheel and drive shaft. Perhaps that's why we were not able to get the engine in with the carbs ON it. So now we know the magic rule is:

Wheel off -> Carbs on.
Carbs off -> Wheel on.

;)
Jesse
Moot #358
'99 Magna (Halloween theme paint job)
Racetech Cartridge Emulators in front forks, Progressive 444s on the rear. Best mods I've ever made to this bike.
Houston

MagnaDaddy

I thought I took enough pictures to be able to assemble this puppy without any questions but... :oops:

How does the heat shield fit?  Do the clutch & gas lines go under or on top of it?  Does the breather tube from the carb to the rear plastic bottle go on top or under?

And what do I do with the extra bolts, Just Kidding  :roll:
Ken Strauss
Hutto, TX

MOOT#436
2005 Yamaha Royal Star Tour Deluxe