Seriously, If you were to design the 4th Gen Magna . .

Started by dc112675, April 02, 2007, 12:12:05 PM

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Gloveberg

My thoughts on the subject and the various replies:

- Make the engine a fuel injected 800-900cc high reving V4 (It IS a Magna after all right?)
- BIGGER TANK.....PLEASE!!!!!!!!
- Front and rear dics brakes
- Adjustable levers (or the ability to put some aftermarket adjustable ones on)
- Optional quarter fairing like the CD version but with better wind coverage
- Better suspension (inverted cartridge front forks, well sprung and damped rear springs)
- A decent seat
- Analog guages inset with digital functions (timer, trip, clock, etc.)
- Hidden auxilary outlet
- Chain drive never has bothered me but shaft would be nice for those that do a lot of highway riding.  Have the VF850C version with shaft drive, slighty more forward pegs and softer suspension and the VF850R version with chain, mid controls, stiffer suspension and the fairing  :wink:
Jimmy Glover
MOOT #9
Central Region Coordinator
1996 Magna

There are two kinds of pedestrians: The Quick and the Dead.

kdf9511

Well I would like to see....

200+ Hp...Even if they had to move into the V6 range.  They can do it with outboard motors why not motorcycles....
Fuel Injection....
Large tank.....6+ gal would be nice....
Comfortable seat.....
Shaft Drive.....
Full touring package aviable with fairing hard bags and trunk.....somthing like the Valk IS....
Plenty of aftermarket suport....


Cup holders....

MagnaMan

I like Jimmy's idea of two versions. I was thinking of that too but figured we'd  be lucky just to get one Magna out of Honda. They seem to stuck in the rut of multiple versions of the VTX and that's about it.

Kerry, you just turned the bike into a Valk or something else. LOL :)
Jesse
Moot #358
'99 Magna (Halloween theme paint job)
Racetech Cartridge Emulators in front forks, Progressive 444s on the rear. Best mods I've ever made to this bike.
Houston

silveradocowboy

Styling similar to a V65,
how about a V5 from a RC211V,
6 gears,
5+ gal. fuel tank(s),
fuel injection,
Pro-link rear suspension (chain drive, R version) or a single sided swingarm with shaft drive(C version), Two versions are a great idea Jimmy,
Ram-air intake,
high output ignition,
programmable ECU,
inverted cartridge front forks,
electronic steering damper,
high volume oil pump,
high volume water pump,
hydraulic lifters,
hydraulic clutch,
front and rear dics brakes with floating rotors, Brembo maybe?,
digital gauges,
wider rear wheel,
All parts chromed or powdercoated except for painted body parts
Jeff
MOOT#103
'08 Goldwing

silveradocowboy

something like this maybe? Somewhere I have a pic with the bike in red, looks sharp.

Yea I know, still dreamin'
Jeff
MOOT#103
'08 Goldwing

MagnaMan

Jesse
Moot #358
'99 Magna (Halloween theme paint job)
Racetech Cartridge Emulators in front forks, Progressive 444s on the rear. Best mods I've ever made to this bike.
Houston

MagnaDaddy

OK, so I'm an old fart, but that version looks a little to crotch-rockety for me..  I must admit I like my old-fashioned cruiser  :roll:

None the less, it looks like a really fun ride!!!!
Ken Strauss
Hutto, TX

MOOT#436
2005 Yamaha Royal Star Tour Deluxe

MagnaMan

Actually I was going to say that it looked a lot like the 1st gens (maybe too much) and much less like the cruiser style of the 3rd gens.

The crotch-rockety look comes from a little bit of streamlining of the 1st gen lines. But if you look at it, the seat, tank, pipes, rear wheel are all reminiscent of the 1st gen and the Super. Then engine even looks like the first gen.

The front fender is more like the 3rd gens. The rear fender and front/rear suspension is more sport bike-ish. The air cleaners are reminiscent of the V-Max.

So there you have it. That looks much more like a 1st gen than anything else. he he.  But it does look mean and sporty.
Jesse
Moot #358
'99 Magna (Halloween theme paint job)
Racetech Cartridge Emulators in front forks, Progressive 444s on the rear. Best mods I've ever made to this bike.
Houston

silveradocowboy

Well I can't find the red one anywhere except for a printed copy I have at work, when I get my scanner back I'll upload it.

It does have a lot of 1st gen likeness, guess that is why I like it so much.  Now if Honda can add all the stuff that we want in one that would be amazing. :)
Jeff
MOOT#103
'08 Goldwing

Charles S Otwell

I don't mean to sound negative but it looks like the frame broke on a crotch rocket. :?
Charles
#279
Texarkana,Tx

dc112675

I think my favorite characteristic of the Magna is that it looks like a cruiser but runs like a rocket.  I don't know how long the "trend" will last, but the hot look on the street is the cruiser/chopper style.  You can thank American Choppers, Biker Build-off, etc. for bringing that to the masses.   Lots of younger folks (like myself) have caught on to the two wheel craze.  Having said that, I think a cruiser design would be more marketable.  

Again, that begs the question . . . if Honda were to re-release the Magna, could it be marketed to draw a big group?  

I'd think a lot of young guys would really go for a fast cruiser.  These teens watching the Discover Channel are coming up in the ranks, and it won't be long until they will hit their 20's and want a bike of their own.  And not to sound disrespectful in any way, but they are gonna want a bike w/o saddlebags, windsheild, floorboards, etc.  In the minds of kids, those accesories do to a motorcycle what a camper shell does to a truck.

At any rate, maybe Honda will capitalize on this market and we can get a 4th gen after all.  dc

Magnum Magna

It is hard to say.  When I was young in body, every maker had many enduros (now dual purpose).  Now the makers only make one or two and that is all.

What I mean by that is the taste and desires of all ages will change.  Will the desire of the young in age desire for sport bikes or could it shift back to a dual purpose.  I know if I was that age I would want a dual purpose but I had a place in the country to go off road all the time.  When this generation of young riders maturing will they want a cruiser with the acceleration of a sports bike or just stay with sports bike?   That could depend on what the back rider could desires. :lol: But I had an unending list of girls wanting to ride with me on my enduro. :D
Robert
Better to be exploited then not exploited.
07 Ultra, 07 Boulevard w/ sidecar (2+2=4)

Matthew 13:19 NT ... This is the seed sown along the path

Charles S Otwell

There is a market for a kick ass cruiser, the fact that the cc's keep getting bigger proves that. Unfortunately for the few of us that like the Magna, we know it was a head of it's time. To many of our generation are trying to hang on to the old school V-twin that started the chopper era. When this new generation of sport bike riders get tired of laying down to ride and start slowing down to enjoy the comfort of cruisers they will be prime targets for the a power of a V-four engine in a cruiser style bike. Their gen is not tuned in to the sound of a V-twin. I think then we'll see more of a Magna style bike come back. I don't think I can hold my breath that long, but I can hope. In the meantime I keep thinking some of us older guys need to start building our own version of a new Magna :idea: !! Waiting on Honda ain't workin! :x
Charles
#279
Texarkana,Tx

silveradocowboy

Quote from: Charles S OtwellIn the meantime I keep thinking some of us older guys need to start building our own version of a new Magna :idea: !! Waiting on Honda ain't workin! :x

When the V65 (project which is going good) and the VF1000R project bikes are done we can use the V65 parts bike I have to get it started.
Jeff
MOOT#103
'08 Goldwing

Charles S Otwell

Works for me! 8)  I think I may have found an outlet for later model salvage bikes I'm already looking for a larger frame and tank.. Hurry up and get that V-65 finished I'm getting older by the minute.. :lol:
Charles
#279
Texarkana,Tx