Gas Tank Questions

Started by hootmon, December 19, 2008, 06:19:57 PM

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Charles S Otwell

Terry, be sure and use your stop watch 8) we want an accurate measurement :D :D :D..
Charles
#279
Texarkana,Tx

TLRam1

Quote from: Charles S Otwell on January 06, 2009, 07:57:30 PM
Terry, be sure and use your stop watch 8) we want an accurate measurement :D :D :D..

Haha, no, I trust your measurement! Hoot confirmed how much of your measurement actually fits.
Terry

My mama always told me never put off till tomorrow people you can kill today.

Allen, TX.

74 GT750 - 75 GT380 – 01 Magna - 03 KX 250-01 – 04 WR 450 - 74 T500 Titan

Curtis_Valk

Quote from: hootmon on January 06, 2009, 04:29:04 PM
The additional amount was 0.365 gallons.. I know that doesn't sound like a lot, but it is an additional 14+ miles to reserve..

You know, even though I've poo poo'd the idea of trying to force another few ounces of fuel in the tank that is exactly the justification I've used for carrying my MSR bottles

I carry one to four of them with me always.  When asked about their limited capacity my reply is "Each one of those is ten miles I don't have to walk".  I think I see your point after all.

Curtis
Rowlett, TX MOOT #315 VRCC #26023
States I've Ridden



No need for a reason other than the journey.

dgc67

I like those.  I am sure on some of your longer rides there are some pretty good stretches with no gas.  What size do you carry?

lragan

Quote from: TLRam1 on January 06, 2009, 08:14:48 PM
Quote from: Charles S Otwell on January 06, 2009, 07:57:30 PM
Terry, be sure and use your stop watch 8) we want an accurate measurement :D :D :D..

Haha, no, I trust your measurement! Hoot confirmed how much of your measurement actually fits.

You sort of lost me there, Terry.  I thought Charles had measured the additional gasoline capacity.  What he, and I really want to know is how much time the hole you propose to drill will actually save at each fill-up.  If it isn't substantial, I am not interested.  If it is, then maybe I will get out the drill and risk metal flakes in my carbs...
Lawrence
'96 Blue Austin TX
Ride to Live, Live to Ride longer Wear a Helmet

TLRam1

Quote from: lragan on January 07, 2009, 09:19:24 AM

You sort of lost me there, Terry.  I thought Charles had measured the additional gasoline capacity.  What he, and I really want to know is how much time the hole you propose to drill will actually save at each fill-up.  If it isn't substantial, I am not interested.  If it is, then maybe I will get out the drill and risk metal flakes in my carbs...

Nope, you didn't lose the idea Lawrence.

The object is, in no certain order.

1. Fill up faster.

2. Fill up the tank higher

3. Reduce splash back when filling up past the neck.


I thought about the metal shavings.

Thinking out loud.

1. Won't hurt to leave them in, will not rust as they stay in gas anyway.

2. Petcock has a filter to prevent them entering fuel line.

3. I do have an in-line filter anyway

4. Use a magnet through the tank filler neck while drilling to catch what shavings I can, except I don't think I have a magnet.

5. Probably be able to rinse most shavings out anyway


I guess with so much talk I will get make the effort to get this done sooner. Any helpful ideas before I blow my tank up? Wonder if I can use starter fluid to get the dent out of my tank?   
Terry

My mama always told me never put off till tomorrow people you can kill today.

Allen, TX.

74 GT750 - 75 GT380 – 01 Magna - 03 KX 250-01 – 04 WR 450 - 74 T500 Titan

dgc67

QuoteWonder if I can use starter fluid to get the dent out of my tank?
Let us know if this works!!  :shock:  I have a dent I would like to get out.

TLRam1

Quote from: DG on January 07, 2009, 01:19:57 PM
QuoteWonder if I can use starter fluid to get the dent out of my tank?
Let us know if this works!!  :shock:  I have a dent I would like to get out.

Fill it with air, lots of it.
Terry

My mama always told me never put off till tomorrow people you can kill today.

Allen, TX.

74 GT750 - 75 GT380 – 01 Magna - 03 KX 250-01 – 04 WR 450 - 74 T500 Titan

rjb/AKA Bob Barram

When I did the Iron Butt I carried a fuel cell like Curtis for insurance. Never had to use it. Curtis, I did have a problem with a leak with the rubber seal. Did you ever have that problem?
MOOT#69
Prov. 3:5&6

hootmon

#54
Quote from: DG on January 07, 2009, 01:19:57 PM
QuoteWonder if I can use starter fluid to get the dent out of my tank?
Let us know if this works!!  :shock:  I have a dent I would like to get out.
Yeah, but the tank is metal, so you need to really get the pressure up.. So, empty the gas, take the fuel hose off the fuel valve.. Open the cap and fill with starter fluid.. Replace cap..
Now light via the fuel valve..That way you will get plenty of pressure build up!!!

******Don't try this at home.. Only professionals and Dum6-4553S should attempt this procedure..****

"accidents aren't predictable, don't be a DUMBASS" - MD Dan

Charles S Otwell

I hope no one takes you guys serious :-?, You push dents out of tanks with water pressure, not air, of any kind, and these Honda tanks will not take enough pressure to pop a dent out without deforming the bottom of the tank or ripping the seam out. There are safe ways to get the dents out without blowing something up. Be careful what you say in jest, never know when someone with no experience may take you serious and try something dumb..
Charles
#279
Texarkana,Tx

Curtis_Valk

Quote from: DG on January 07, 2009, 07:07:25 AM
I like those.  I am sure on some of your longer rides there are some pretty good stretches with no gas.  What size do you carry?

I use the largest size which is 30 oz. to the fill line (leaving recommended air space for expansion).  I carry four (two in each saddle bag) if I'm on the "big" bike and if I'm on the "little" Valk I carry one or two in my magnetic tank bag.  I have never needed to use them for any emergency, but once every six months or so I empty them into the lawn mower and start fresh with Sta-bil treated new gasoline.

Curtis
Rowlett, TX MOOT #315 VRCC #26023
States I've Ridden



No need for a reason other than the journey.

Curtis_Valk

Quote from: rjb/AKA Bob Barram on January 07, 2009, 02:40:09 PM
When I did the Iron Butt I carried a fuel cell like Curtis for insurance. Never had to use it. Curtis, I did have a problem with a leak with the rubber seal. Did you ever have that problem?

No, I have not.  Not so much as even a fuel smell in my saddle bags they seal so good.  Be sure to leave the recommended air space.  I have been cautioned that ethanol is not friendly to aluminum, but no corrosion yet.  Maybe 10% is not strong enough to be harmful.

Curtis
Rowlett, TX MOOT #315 VRCC #26023
States I've Ridden



No need for a reason other than the journey.

rjb/AKA Bob Barram

Curtis, never saw a fill line, maybe that was the problem.
MOOT#69
Prov. 3:5&6

TLRam1

In lieu of the bottles I carry a siphon hose, if no one is with me I'm out of luck, those bottles are not a bad idea at 12.00 plus shipping for the large one. 
Terry

My mama always told me never put off till tomorrow people you can kill today.

Allen, TX.

74 GT750 - 75 GT380 – 01 Magna - 03 KX 250-01 – 04 WR 450 - 74 T500 Titan