Regulator Modification

Len Averyt · May 04, 2010, 03:43:44 PM

Quote from: Greg Cothern on June 27, 2009, 09:46:54 AM
Just so you folks know, several of us are working together to create a relocation kit for you 3rd gen Magna's.

It not only will relocate your reg/rec to allow more air and keep it alive longer but will also help pay for MOOTMag in the future, we hope.....

I ordered 25 of the regulator relocate plates made from stainless steel a week or so ago.
We settled on Stainless due to the fact that it can be formed and will remain stiff. The aluminum failed a stress analysis we did on some 3D cad software I had both types designed on.
The stainless has a slightly less thermal transfer coefficient but its only slightly less. In the air stream it makes no difference. Its way better than a plastic battery box

I still need to find the metric hardware, primarily a bolt that I can get chromed so it looks good mounting.
I should have the plates in a week or so.
I will be donating at least one of these kits to Moot Mag. so You have to come to win one.

lragan · May 04, 2010, 03:55:09 PM

Good move, Len

Maybe I will win it!!

TLRam1 · May 04, 2010, 06:06:38 PM

What size bolt and thread pitch do you need?

Magnum Magna · May 04, 2010, 09:56:25 PM

Where is the sign up sheet for one. I am very interested in getting one.

Chokse · May 05, 2010, 09:38:38 AM

Yeah, I'd be interested in one of the new mounts as well. Where can we get one?

Lawrence: Chad was right. That little black box in the picture is your clutch diode. Not really sure why your diode is that style though. On my Magna, the OEM clutch diode is in the fuse box. I am in the process of doing the VFR engine mod to my Magna and had to wire in the VFR clutch diode in place of the Magna's. The VFR clutch diode looks exactly like the one in your picture. I had to remove the wires from the Magna's clutch diode in the fuse box and run them to the VFR clutch diode. If you are not the first owner of your bike, maybe the previous owner had to replace the diode and used one from another Honda bike.

lragan · May 05, 2010, 10:28:45 AM

Chokse, thanks for the verification. In the shop manual, there is a note implying that the clutch diode was included in the fuse box for Magnas 2000 and later. So apparently on my '96 it was in the harness all along. If it has been replaced, they did a great job of it, since it is not evident from inspection.

Interesting side note -- it appears from the wiring diagram that the function of the diode (actually two diodes with common cathodes) is to provide an OR function. The starter will engage if, and only if,

(<side stand is up>AND<clutch is disengaged>)OR<gear shift is in neutral>

The AND function is achieved by simply wiring the side stand switch contact that is open when the stand is up and the clutch switch in series.

The other half of the two diode connection is used to light the neutral indicator without allowing a sneak path to ground for the starter relay coil current.

Len Averyt · May 05, 2010, 11:36:27 AM

Quote from: TLRam1 on May 04, 2010, 06:06:38 PM
What size bolt and thread pitch do you need?

You pull one of the exhaust mounting bolts on the Right side and replace it with a longer bolt.
I think i recall it being a 8mm X length?
I'll find out and post.

Len Averyt · May 05, 2010, 11:39:33 AM

QuoteYeah, I'd be interested in one of the new mounts as well. Where can we get one?

I'm going to sell them through MOOT so the proceeds above cost will go to MM and MOOT events.
So as soon as I find and kit up the items Greg or I will post up a notice.
But to answer the question, SOON i hope. Its took a lot longer for the guy to get them drawn up and sent to fab than I wanted

Chokse · May 05, 2010, 05:30:19 PM

Lawrence:

My bike is a 95 model and the clutch diode was in the fuse box before I replaced it with the VFR clutch diode. I think the previous owner of your bike wired in a different clutch diode. As long as it works, no harm-no foul.

Chad in Michigan · May 05, 2010, 06:06:41 PM

on my bike, it is in that same spot, just hidden a little better, and it's that same shape. It's what I tied into (if i remember right) for my high beam to open my garage door opener. The other wiring harness I bought has one that looks just like that one too.

Len Averyt · June 04, 2010, 02:02:45 PM

Quote from: Len Averyt on May 05, 2010, 11:39:33 AM
QuoteYeah, I'd be interested in one of the new mounts as well. Where can we get one?

I'm going to sell them through MOOT so the proceeds above cost will go to MM and MOOT events.
So as soon as I find and kit up the items Greg or I will post up a notice.
But to answer the question, SOON i hope. Its took a lot longer for the guy to get them drawn up and sent to fab than I wanted

I will be bringing 10 or 15 of them to MM8. I haven't seen the final product yet but looks like it will work great.
I'll be mounting one on my bike tonight to create a installation manual and to show off for MM8. PS final cost on these is coming but should be very affordable.

Len Averyt · June 04, 2010, 09:07:55 PM

Quote from: Len Averyt on June 04, 2010, 02:02:45 PM
Quote from: Len Averyt on May 05, 2010, 11:39:33 AM
QuoteYeah, I'd be interested in one of the new mounts as well. Where can we get one?

I'm going to sell them through MOOT so the proceeds above cost will go to MM and MOOT events.
So as soon as I find and kit up the items Greg or I will post up a notice.
But to answer the question, SOON i hope. Its took a lot longer for the guy to get them drawn up and sent to fab than I wanted
I will be bringing 10 or 15 of them to MM8. I haven't seen the final product yet but looks like it will work great.
I'll be mounting one on my bike tonight to create a installation manual and to show off for MM8. PS final cost on these is coming but should be very affordable.

(NOT!
My machinist screwed me over. Went to pick them up and they weren't where they were supposed to put them.
They are closed on Saturday so there is no way I will have them.
I left a very very nasty voicemail on there answering machine. Told them to eat them and canceled my payment check.
So I'll be looking for a new shop to make them.
This is very disappointing for me and for moot.
They had 4 months to make the damn things and they wait till the last day to start then screw it all up by not putting them out so I can get them.)

Len Averyt · June 05, 2010, 09:37:21 AM

QuoteMy machinist screwed me over. Went to pick them up and they weren't where they were supposed to put them.
They are closed on Saturday so there is no way I will have them.
I left a very very nasty voicemail on there answering machine. Told them to eat them and canceled my payment check.
So I'll be looking for a new shop to make them.
This is very disappointing for me and for moot.
They had 4 months to make the damn things and they wait till the last day to start then screw it all up by not putting them out so I can get them.

I have them in hand!
Long story but

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Greg Cothern · June 05, 2010, 09:56:48 AM

Looks great Len!!! Awesome work!

Len Averyt · June 06, 2010, 04:08:27 PM

Quote from: Greg Cothern on June 05, 2010, 09:56:48 AM
Looks great Len!!! Awesome work!

I had to delay my departure till Monday morning.
I got the first one mounted on my bike. I had to be a "trend setter"

Now everyone will want one!. You better want one! You hear me! Your going to take one if I have to shove...
Sorry Im just a little worked up!

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