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Title: Airfilter Change
Post by: Len Averyt on May 28, 2007, 07:48:58 PM
Got some time to change the airfilter today.
Thanks to the Wrench session for showing me how!
it was a piece of cake.
I know why we get oil leaking from the air cleaner.
the very front of the air cleaner cover deforms with age and heat and doesn't seal completely. Got some photo's
Title: Airfilter Change
Post by: Curtis_Valk on May 28, 2007, 10:18:30 PM
8)  :wink:  8)
Title: Airfilter Change
Post by: Len Averyt on May 28, 2007, 11:33:52 PM
Next up.....
Progressive springs and fork oil...Weeeeeeee!
Title: Airfilter Change
Post by: Greg Cothern on May 29, 2007, 01:10:36 AM
Progressive springs are a top 3 on my list of best bang for your buck on a Magna!

Glad you are tackling things, if ya need help dont hesitate to ask, we have lots of MOOT'sters with great abilities!
Title: change my air filter
Post by: Magnum Magna on May 29, 2007, 04:09:16 PM
While the tank is off being modified I think I will change my air filter.  What are some good suggestions pro and cons.
Title: Airfilter Change
Post by: Curtis_Valk on May 29, 2007, 04:13:45 PM
QuoteWhat are some good suggestions

Call ahead unless you buy one over the internet.  Rockwall Honda and Al Lamb's refuses to stock one  :twisted:  :twisted:  :evil:  :evil:   Maybe Plano Honda will be more accomodating.

I'll be danged if I'll make two trips to the dealer: one to order the filter (Al Lamb's wouldn't even order one unless I paid up front) and then another trip to pick it up.

If I've got to wait, I'd rather wait on the UPS truck.

Curtis
Title: Airfilter Change
Post by: Greg Cothern on May 29, 2007, 04:29:39 PM
I say we should get the North Texas region together as many as possible and ride up to Al Lambs and all ask if they have air filters in stock!!!!!!
I bet we could get them to carry 1 or 2 then!
Title: Airfilter Change
Post by: Len Averyt on May 29, 2007, 04:55:14 PM
I bought mine in Fort Worth at a honda dealer.. :oops:
only one they had in stock.
But honda parts of texas has them listed for 32 or 38 bucks.
Which is cheaper than I got mine
Title: Airfilter Change
Post by: HardDriveUSA on May 29, 2007, 06:30:19 PM
How about the K&N filter?  My bike is at 18 -19 k miles or so.  Besides being a pain to get to, is it hard to maintain?  Once I get some money freed up I might get one.
Title: Airfilter Change
Post by: Magnum Magna on May 29, 2007, 06:44:15 PM
I am assuming K & N is not stock.  What is the pro and cons of the K & N.
Title: Airfilter Change
Post by: HardDriveUSA on May 29, 2007, 06:54:25 PM
Ok, from what I understand, it is a "life time" oiled filter.  It's under $60.  The way it was described to me is that it "gets rid of your bikes asthma" thus improving your bikes performance.  :twisted:
But is it really as much of an improvement as they are claiming?
Title: Airfilter Change
Post by: Greg Cothern on May 29, 2007, 07:00:20 PM
K&N is a rewash and reactivate lifetime type filter, it flows a bit more air so will lean the fuel/air just a tad but nothing to hurt anything.  
I would suggest a pilot jet adjustment, especially if you are running aftermarket mufflers etc and have not installed a jet/shim kit.
If your bike is totally stock then switching to a K&N wont require this, but would make it run a bit better with the adjustments.
Title: Airfilter Change
Post by: Len Averyt on May 29, 2007, 07:29:03 PM
Changing the filter, whether it be a stock or a K&N really isnt that hard to change.
All you need is a 12mm wrench to remove the seat.
a 4 or 5 mm allen wrench to release the one bolt holding the tank.
and a philips screwdriver.

turn the run/reserve valve too off. use a rag to catch the fuel from the fuel line when you disconnect it.
pull the tank vent. The hardest part.
and pull the back of the tank up then towards the rear.

remove some philips screews and the assy. is out.

I did notice a performance boost when I changed the filter.
She had a quicker response to the throttle, which she was never slow about to begin with.
Title: Airfilter Change
Post by: Magnum Magna on May 29, 2007, 07:38:58 PM
I will probably stay with the stock filter.  My washable filter I had on my Z-28 was not bad but taking it off the bike to do the cleaning would be a pain.
Title: Airfilter Change
Post by: Charles S Otwell on May 29, 2007, 07:50:00 PM
I don't think you have to clean it any more often than you would normally replace the stock filter.
Title: Airfilter Change
Post by: Greg Cothern on May 29, 2007, 07:57:01 PM
I agree, you clean it as often as you should change out the stock paper element, about every 8-10K miles unless you ride in a dusty area.
Title: Airfilter Change
Post by: Jerry G Turner on May 29, 2007, 08:20:02 PM
anybody interested I have an K&N filter off of my 94 it was only on for about 2000 miles I will sell it for 20 bucks plus shipping.
Title: Airfilter Change
Post by: HardDriveUSA on May 29, 2007, 08:38:49 PM
Funny you should post that here...  Twenty dollars you say?  I did some quick checking, it should fit my 96 nicely...
Title: Airfilter Change
Post by: Jerry G Turner on May 30, 2007, 04:56:56 PM
My 2cents on a K&N air filter Dave Dodge sells them for 55 dollars a paper filter cost about 38 to 40 dollars you change them both at about 8000 to 10000 miles the paper filter you throw away and buy another one at 38 to 40 dollars the K&N you clean and recharge cost about 10 bucks for a recharge kit the paper filter you have to buy at a stealer ship the recharge kit you can get at any auto parts store. Well thats my 2cents.
Title: Airfilter Change
Post by: Curtis_Valk on May 30, 2007, 09:35:27 PM
I like to throw my dirt away and start fresh with a new stock filter.  At replacement intervals of thousands of miles is cost really an issue?

I cleaned and re-oiled my daughter's K&N on her Civic and you can't convince me that it's actually clean.  You couldn't run fast enough to give me one for free.

Curtis
Title: Airfilter Change
Post by: Instructor50 on May 31, 2007, 09:25:21 PM
Greg

QuoteIf your bike is totally stock then switching to a K&N wont require this, but would make it run a bit better with the adjustments.

So what if you did the muffler mod?  I cut the resonators out of my mufflers and didn't jet or shim anything and she runs great...I had thought of a K&N filter but didn't want to have to buy the jet kit.

Let me know.
Title: Airfilter Change
Post by: Jerry G Turner on May 31, 2007, 10:01:02 PM
QuoteI like to throw my dirt away and start fresh with a new stock filter. At replacement intervals of thousands of miles is cost really an issue?
I guess that's why they ask paper or plastic, to each his own.
Title: Airfilter Change
Post by: Curtis_Valk on May 31, 2007, 10:25:22 PM
Ummm, they don't ask that any more do they?   :lol:  :wink:  :lol:

Yep, I can't tell anyone what they should or shouldn't do with their own stuff, but I am not bashful about sharing what I would do and why (even if at times my reasons don't make sense lol).

I agree, to each his own..............or is it variety is the spice of life?  I always confuse the two!  8)

Curtis
Title: Airfilter Change
Post by: HardDriveUSA on June 23, 2007, 02:42:51 PM
Right. :?



Quote from: Len AverytChanging the filter, whether it be a stock or a K&N really isnt that hard to change.
All you need is a 12mm wrench to remove the seat.
a 4 or 5 mm allen wrench to release the one bolt holding the tank.
and a philips screwdriver.
Check

Quote from: Len Averytturn the run/reserve valve too off. use a rag to catch the fuel from the fuel line when you disconnect it.
pull the tank vent. The hardest part.
and pull the back of the tank up then towards the rear.
Check
note for future reference:
  Gas is not compleatly shut off.  It still drips out.  Cost of new shut off valve a lil under $90


Quote from: Len Averyt
remove some philips screews and the assy. is out.
Huh?  How many of those boogers I need to take out?  I think I have them all, but the assembly not comming apart.  I'm missing something simple I'm sure.  I finally found time to work on getting the K&N filter installed, but my K&N air filter is still not installed.


Step not reached yet:
Quote from: Len AverytI did notice a performance boost when I changed the filter.She had a quicker response to the throttle, which she was never slow about to begin with.

would be nice though.
Title: Airfilter Change
Post by: HardDriveUSA on June 23, 2007, 04:28:43 PM
OK.  I did miss 2 screws.   :oops:
After I wrote prev. message, I took another look.  But I still missed the fact that the air filter is big...  I tried to take just the "filter" part out, it didn't look like it would work.  A quick trip to Scooter Petes fixed that.  That was the bad part.. :oops:  :oops:  :oops:   Was it that I couldn't see the forest cause of the trees or I couldn't see the trees cause of the forest, one of those.  The easiest part of the whole process I had to go to the experts. :roll:

But 4 hours later...
MY FILTER IS CHANGED    :lol:   and my bike still runs.  I hear a little bit of poping.  

Won't take me near that long next time.  =)