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Title: Painting help
Post by: robertdwest on November 22, 2008, 09:50:30 PM
Greetings all.  This winter my hope is to repaint the bike and was hoping to find someone that is skilled in this area that would be willing to share their knowledge in a wrench session or several to help a novice repaint the bike.  It will be the first step in a semi-customization of a 94 magna.  I live in Kempner and am military so work on Fort Hood.  Look forward to hearing from anyone that can help.
Title: Re: Painting help
Post by: roboto65 on November 22, 2008, 09:58:35 PM
First off welcome to the club and most likely Charles will be the one he is the paint guy does some great work!!!!
Title: Re: Painting help
Post by: TLRam1 on November 22, 2008, 10:36:08 PM
I think I have a few How-To's on painting unless I lost them in my hard drive failure but no worth while experience. I think I am back up and running on my computer now.

Allen gave you the guy who can give you some pointers Charles-in-Charge! He can also do custom seats if your so inclined.
Title: Re: Painting help
Post by: lragan on November 23, 2008, 01:57:14 PM
These guys are right, Charles is the Xpert on painting stuff.  All I have painted are side panels and (can you believe it?) air horn trumpets to match the tank, fenders, and side panels.

When trying to learn how to do this, I found the following web site most helpful:

http://www.manoian.net/jeep/amber_fire_pearlcoat_paint.html

Yes, I know it is about painting a jeep, but the bike is not different in principle.  Biggest difference is that the parts all fit in a small booth, perhaps made from a large cardboard box with appropriate fan and HEPA filter. 

My biggest difficulty was trying to match paint and flames already on the rest of the bike.  If you start from scratch, it would clearly require more effort than a few side panels, but it could well be simpler.

I really enjoyed doing this, and should I ever actually, I mean really, retire, would like to get good enough at it to offer it as a service to others.  Hope you enjoy it as much... :cool:
Title: Re: Painting help
Post by: Charles S Otwell on November 23, 2008, 07:45:21 PM
Hey Robert, nothing more gratifying than customising your on bike and doing the work yourself. I am no Xpert, (if I understood that last remark correctly :D) but I do enjoy doing my own painting, and sometimes come across as a know-it-all (not intentional). The web site that Lawrence gave is an excellent article. There are a lot of choices in paint product available, be careful when choosing. What paint tools do you have? Tools also plays a big part in the out come. I will be glad to answer any questions that I can, but I am by no means the only member with painting skills in Moot. Give us an idea what you have to work with and how extensive are you wanting to go with the custom painting. I would enjoy hosting a wrenching session on such, but not until I finish painting Jeff's sportbike :oops: which is way over due..
Title: Re: Painting help
Post by: KTC on November 26, 2008, 01:05:49 PM
don't you paint Allen?
Title: Re: Painting help
Post by: roboto65 on November 26, 2008, 01:49:16 PM
Have painted a few bikes spraycan jobs did not turn out bad I am sure that Charles will agree that 90% of a paint job is in the Prep work !!!!
Title: Re: Painting help
Post by: KTC on November 26, 2008, 03:10:15 PM
so true. 
Title: Re: Painting help
Post by: robertdwest on December 13, 2008, 09:25:00 PM
Right now all I have for tools is a simple walmart air compressor, and a large bottom fed paint gun for the compressor.  I have considered picking up their little 40.00 dollar paint set up at walmart.  I realize that walmart probably isn't the best quality of tools but I figure it's a good place to start for experience at a minimal price.  I also have the basic palm sander and enough tools to take the parts off the bike.  I do have a garage to work in, so that's a plus. 

I'm not looking to go too custom.  I've contemplated just going a blue to match my helmet and either find someone to do some airbrushing for some Dallas Cowboys items or work some stickers in just as they do the magna logo on the tank and just do my best to flush it with clear coat.  I know, the Cowboys aren't the most popular team in the world but what can I say, I'm a die hard fan.
Title: Re: Painting help
Post by: roboto65 on December 13, 2008, 09:29:51 PM
One thing about doing it your self is if you do not like it you can do it again I would say prep is most of it make sure to get the primer smooth and wipe it down good to get all oils off the primer then spray it down with color in stages light coats building to color !!!
Then add your sticker or graphics and clear over them !!!
Title: Re: Painting help
Post by: TLRam1 on December 13, 2008, 11:31:19 PM
I didn't read the article but sand between coats. If the article doesn't cover this we can provide more info.
Title: Re: Painting help
Post by: Charles S Otwell on December 14, 2008, 05:20:01 AM
All these were painted with a $15.00 gravity feed auto spray gun from harbor Freight, in the shop seen in one of the pics. The wolf head is a decal, I air brushed around the edges then clearcoated. It takes several coats of clear, letting each coat dry then sanding between coats to remove the raised edges of the decal, it takes several days to get it slick enough that you can't feel the decal. Also try to pick a decal that doesn't have a border around the edge. Last but not least do all your final sanding with a block sander and 1500 grit wet/dry (wet) so it can be buffed to a high gloss without any dust particules showing.

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(http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n99/oldman_05/Wolftank013.jpg)
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Title: Re: Painting help
Post by: Greg Cothern on December 14, 2008, 09:54:59 AM
You guys are making me want to dig out the ole yeller tank and play! 
Title: Re: Painting help
Post by: roboto65 on December 14, 2008, 09:55:59 AM
Get to digging LOL you can do it !!!!
Title: Re: Painting help
Post by: Charles S Otwell on December 14, 2008, 08:47:26 PM
Seems I remember you already having a paint gun  :roll: and I believe an air compressor? Sooo what ya waitin on  :D..
Title: Re: Painting help
Post by: Greg Cothern on December 14, 2008, 09:27:59 PM
I am skeeeered!   :lol:
Title: Re: Painting help
Post by: roboto65 on December 14, 2008, 09:32:56 PM
 
QuoteI am skeeeered!   
:shock: :shock: :shock: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Painting help
Post by: Charles S Otwell on December 14, 2008, 09:42:19 PM
QuoteI am skeeeered

Well I guess you'll just have to stick to coloring books then :D :D :D

Or you could practice on something a little less expensive, pick up a junk tank or fender from someones scrap pile 8-)..
Title: Re: Painting help
Post by: roboto65 on December 15, 2008, 07:23:04 AM
He has ONE!!!!! Tank that is LOL  :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Painting help
Post by: KTC on December 15, 2008, 11:20:56 AM
Allen, I was noticing from your picture that the rear fender needs to have more flames or a bit more of a yellow tint to it, that way it will give it the effect of the flames progressing throughout the bike...come Jan 10th Greg and I will have this paint thing mastered so all yo have to do is sand and do all the prep work on the rear fender and we'll handle the rest! :cool: :cool:
Title: Re: Painting help
Post by: Charles S Otwell on December 15, 2008, 12:48:55 PM
No, No, those fenders and tank are already promised out, as is!! Any alterations will void the deal :evil:..
:D :D
Title: Re: Painting help
Post by: KTC on December 15, 2008, 12:54:43 PM
uh oh Allen  :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: sounds like your introuble
Title: Re: Painting help
Post by: roboto65 on December 15, 2008, 06:25:53 PM
Nope Charles has dibs on them still have to figure out the paint!!! We have been working on a deal!!! PM me sometime Charles or call if ya have my number..
Title: Re: Painting help
Post by: KTC on December 16, 2008, 11:36:50 AM
dibs dibs
Title: Re: Painting help
Post by: robertdwest on December 19, 2008, 07:56:15 PM
well, it looks like I need to get to reading on the article and see about picking up some sand paper and supplies next month when I get the tax return and prep the garage.  Is there anything special I need to concern myself with on the prep of the fiberglass on the side covers and fenders?  all this advice and support is getting me pumped up to get started. 
Title: Re: Painting help
Post by: Charles S Otwell on December 20, 2008, 02:48:53 AM
Actually, the fenders and side covers are plastic, be careful with chemicals , paint strippers will melt the plastic. Any repairs on cracks and such, can be accomplished with a two part expoxy for plastic. If you don't sand all the way thru the paint nothing special will need to be done. If you do sand thru to the plastic, be careful the plastic is softer than the paint and will be easy to leave scratches in. This will be a good time to check your side covers for cracks and worn or damaged tabs and repair if needed.
Title: Re: Painting help
Post by: robertdwest on December 22, 2008, 12:57:12 AM
thanks Charles..  Sounds like its time to find some good sandpaper and start sanding the parts down and prepping to get started on painting.  Should be fun.  I'll make sure to take pictures for my documentation of the bike customization. 
Title: Re: Painting help
Post by: Charles S Otwell on December 22, 2008, 01:36:03 AM
Project, pictures, customized Magna, sounds great!! 8) Good luck and keep us posted..
Title: Re: Painting help
Post by: roboto65 on December 22, 2008, 09:14:05 AM
Oh yes please do we LIKE Pictures!!!! :cool: :cool: