Ok... First off "HELLO!!" everyone, as I am new to the board.... :D .... I am the proud owner for my FIRST magna, a 1982 that I picked up off local CL for a mere 900.00.... In running condition.... however; I rode it home and I am now in the process of completely tearing it down to the frame for paint and restoration.....
My questions are:
1. Anyone know of a great way to restore and reseal the upper fuel tank, as the gas was sitting in there for extremely long time and is rusting it away?
2. Anyone know how in the heck to remove the bottom / reserve tank? or is the rear tire removal necessary?
3. The guy it bought it from said he had to fill the shaft oil, and he overfilled it causing it to purge out of the vent from the top. What is the proper way of filling it and how much/what kind of fluid is used.
Anyways, thanks for having me on the board, and you can bet I will be an active member and take pics as the restoration unfolds.
Sam
Picture is of bike just before I bought her at the previous owners house...
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Welcome to the site Sam. A lot of great people here.
I can't help, but I'm sure someone else will.
Is that a v45?
Thanks!! It is a V45
Hello Sam from Safety Harbor, Fl..
Sorry I can't help you as I am a Gen 3 owner, but there are others who will be able to provide advice...
$900 - sounds like a steal... Good luck.
Again Welcome to MOOT.
Quote from: GroceryGetter on December 13, 2008, 11:39:12 AM
Thanks!! It is a V65
Ohh, I'd love to have a v65. Especially for $900. hehe
welcome aboard nice to have you here the bike looks good. on the tank take it off flush it out good and they sell a tank sealer that you can pour in it to stop the rust and to seal it you can probable get it at an auto parts store or I know they sell it at J.C.Whitneys on line. I order to get the reserve tank off I am fairly sure you have to pull the rear wheel. on the shaft drive remove the lower plug and drain it then remove the plug that is about 1/4 the way up and fill it with 80 or 90 weight gear oil until it starts to run out of the fill hole.
Welcome aboard...
They made the first V65 in 83 till 86. So if ya got an 82 its a V45. Both are great bikes and a lot of fun!!
Welcome to the club.... :smile: :smile: I think the only way to get the reserve tank out is thru the rear after you take the fender and stuff out of there!!!! as far as the Main tamk Creme works but to do the job right and I mean no rust fixed is to have the bottom cut out and cleaned and welded back on ...
Quote from: GroceryGetter on December 13, 2008, 12:00:48 PM
Quote from: GroceryGetter on December 13, 2008, 11:39:12 AM
Thanks!! It is a V45
Forgive the few that don't read throughly. lol
Art may have some parts you need. He parts a few of these out. Arthur Hettler" ahettler at hotmail dot com
How bad is the tank rust? Leaks, pinholes? I have done several and personally do not like to use a liner unless absolutely necessary than use POR-15. Kreem I have never used due to the ones who restore having less than stellar success with this product. If you do use a liner you must follow the directions for a clean DRY surface. To dry you can use a hair dryer for a day so all the crevices are dry.
I use Evaporust from Oreilly's, I think this is the same as Phosphoric Acid or Phosphoric from Kleen Strip at Home Depot those products will be okay to use also but I have no personal experience from with them. Evap O will clean the rust will not hurt the paint if it gets on it (I wouldn't try soaking a painted item in it though) for a nice clean surface. Once you rinse treat with oil quickly to prevent surface rust. I rinse with water than add a bottle of alcohol to dissipate the water, once gas is added I shake the tank and that's it. Afterwards I put a inline filter on and run with it.
Important, before the above I remove the petcock, take it to the high pressure car wash and blow all rust debris out but mine have been pretty rusted as in shake around rusted.
My photo link does not work....the website has a hosting site for photos if you do not have one or prefer to host somewhere else. You can add your own folder if you like and put all your photos there. On the front page of the
Forum look at the bottom for
MOOT BUSINESS (you must be signed in as this is a "
Member Only" area). Inside within the top 3 post you will see a sticky post How to Post Photos or something to that affect.
Where are you located? In your signature line it's good to add where you reside, someone might be close by to help and I'm just curious. :-P 8-)
Inside of tank can be cleaned with bunch of bb's and a clothes dryer.. Trapper describes this in a post on the forum.
removing all parts one can from the tank, taping up the openings and putting into a clothes dryer. Packed with blankets, pillows, etc to cushion tank so it would doesnt bounce around. The bb's will bounce around inside blasting the inside of the tank will clean the rust out.
CAUTION!!!! MAKE SURE THE TANK HAS BEEN WELL VENTILATED AND COMPLETELY DRY before putting into the dryer!
Quote from: Greg Cothern on December 13, 2008, 05:24:57 PM
Inside of tank can be cleaned with bunch of bb's and a clothes dryer.. Trapper describes this in a post on the forum.
removing all parts one can from the tank, taping up the openings and putting into a clothes dryer. Packed with blankets, pillows, etc to cushion tank so it would doesnt bounce around. The bb's will bounce around inside blasting the inside of the tank will clean the rust out.
CAUTION!!!! MAKE SURE THE TANK HAS BEEN WELL VENTILATED AND COMPLETELY DRY before putting into the dryer!
This sounds like a good idea.... and I will give that a go around tomorrow (sunday) just to see how it works!! I have been working ALL DAY at getting the residual fuel out of the tank, and Hopefully by tomorrow it will be evaporated enough
Quote from: TLRam1 on December 13, 2008, 03:09:25 PM
Quote from: GroceryGetter on December 13, 2008, 12:00:48 PM
Quote from: GroceryGetter on December 13, 2008, 11:39:12 AM
Thanks!! It is a V45
Forgive the few that don't read throughly. lol
Art may have some parts you need. He parts a few of these out. Arthur Hettler" ahettler at hotmail dot com
How bad is the tank rust? Leaks, pinholes? I have done several and personally do not like to use a liner unless absolutely necessary than use POR-15. Kreem I have never used due to the ones who restore having less than stellar success with this product. If you do use a liner you must follow the directions for a clean DRY surface. To dry you can use a hair dryer for a day so all the crevices are dry.
I use Evaporust from Oreilly's, I think this is the same as Phosphoric Acid or Phosphoric from Kleen Strip at Home Depot those products will be okay to use also but I have no personal experience from with them. Evap O will clean the rust will not hurt the paint if it gets on it (I wouldn't try soaking a painted item in it though) for a nice clean surface. Once you rinse treat with oil quickly to prevent surface rust. I rinse with water than add a bottle of alcohol to dissipate the water, once gas is added I shake the tank and that's it. Afterwards I put a inline filter on and run with it.
Important, before the above I remove the petcock, take it to the high pressure car wash and blow all rust debris out but mine have been pretty rusted as in shake around rusted.
My photo link does not work....the website has a hosting site for photos if you do not have one or prefer to host somewhere else. You can add your own folder if you like and put all your photos there. On the front page of the Forum look at the bottom for MOOT BUSINESS (you must be signed in as this is a "Member Only" area). Inside within the top 3 post you will see a sticky post How to Post Photos or something to that affect.
Where are you located? In your signature line it's good to add where you reside, someone might be close by to help and I'm just curious. :-P 8-)
I am located in AUSTIN TEXAS!! well...actually Pflugerville...LOL!!
I will use your idea to evap any extra moisture with the alcohol ...should that be denatured alcohol?
The tank is rusted,but no pin holes of any kind and it is only on the inside of the tank.... the carb bowls where full of gunk and I have them soaking tonight.... I am going to strip everything down to bare bones except wiring and engine, so that I can start the painting process... I am excited,as it has been years since I have done a "project" bike and really did my research so that I will be proud of the outcome.... I didn't want to buy someone else's garage queen....
I will try the pics folder tomorrow.... really doing it for my benefit, but enjoy sharing also
Denatured will work great.. And we all love pictures and following along with a restore mine is coming soon LOL
Quote from: GroceryGetter on December 13, 2008, 07:29:04 PM
I am located in AUSTIN TEXAS!! well...actually Pflugerville...LOL!!
Well, that is good. We need some more MOOTsters in this area. Ken (MagnaDaddy) is in Hutto, and I am a few miles from The Salt Lick, near the intersection of TX45 and FM1826.
I have a few tools that may be of use. -- Like a chain break, a chain riveter, a "mercury stick" for synchronizing carbs, other miscellaneous stuff.
I think Ken is planning to come down sometime between Christmas and New Year's to sync some carbs. Perhaps you could come at the same time, and we could get acquainted a bit better.
I know you can't be ready to tune up your new baby by that time, (or at least, I sure couldn't!!) but you are welcome anytime. :cool:
Lawrence
Well lets hope she is ready for MOOTMag #7 hope to see you there !!!
Putting BB's in the tank will work along with nuts, pieces of chain, you can tie the nuts together for easier retrieval if you need. If you have a lip on the petcock and filler neck the BB's and any other items are a pain to remove, hence tying together.
You will still need to wash all the rust out and probably de-rust with a solution. You can also derust via a battery charger and a anode rod. I will have to dig up my info if you want this, takes longer though.
If you will go to the FAQ Section from the front page of this forum there is a link for various service and owners manuals.
Looks like you have some local help available if needed.
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I used this in a gas tank off of an old truck that was pretty rusty and it worked really well never had any problems with that gas tank.
Someone wrapped a relay in carpet...why I have no idea
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Inner rear fender, fuel tank and battery tray removed.... mess of wires
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Painted the Back of the rear chrome fender... this is the part that you cant see when it is installed... i used spray paint... I am no Picasso!!
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battery tray,fuel pump and filter..... I am going to put in a better filter!!
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Bike after painted frame.... I am going to do 4 more coats of paint on frame and doing swing arm tomorrow
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You have a good start on it Sam, keep us posted with pics and what you are doing with it. Are you looking for a clean rider out of this?
Quote from: TLRam1 on December 18, 2008, 10:00:36 PM
You have a good start on it Sam, keep us posted with pics and what you are doing with it. Are you looking for a clean rider out of this?
Yes, I dont think she will be good enough to be called a 'garage queen' or win any shows, but mainly restoring it for my own personal gratis!! My 8 year old boy is also helping!!
Ahhhh Father / Son time.. There is NOTHING better.. You will see..
Probably many times in your sons future he will say.. I rememeber when my Dad & I rebuilt this motorcycle....
Good Job Dad!!!
Ok... was out in the garage painting with the compressor this time (instead of the spray paint) and got a little carried away.... You see, I have ALWAYS like the LOOK of the Vegas 8 ball or another one I liked was the Night Train..... SOOO.... I officially painted the entire engine BLACK GLOSS HI TEMP........ I fell in love with it the moment the first spray went on and am going to detail it to a tee now!!
If anyone has suggestions on paint styles or What you like, feel free to share because I love other ideas and might incorporate it into my project!! Thanks
Quote from: hootmon on December 19, 2008, 07:17:48 AM
Ahhhh Father / Son time.. There is NOTHING better
What about Father / Daughter time?!?!?!
My 3 year was helping me on my bike....when i still had it.... she liked to turn the rachet
Got some updated PICS of the restore.... just wanted to put it together to see what she will look like.... I have yet to get the side covers/tank painted and still need to clean the chrome rear back support... enjoy
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Looks good Sam, what have you done to this point?
Are You doing the painting or sending it out?
Will you go back with original color?
What do you have left?
Is the motor in good shape?
Your making me ancy to get started on mine!!
I took my 4 wheeler and trailer to my Mom's place this weekend and left them for now. This means extra room in the shed for the 2 projects and no trailer in the garage! That is the first step for me getting started.
Quote from: DG on December 29, 2008, 06:46:50 AM
Your making me ancy to get started on mine!!
I took my 4 wheeler and trailer to my Mom's place this weekend and left them for now. This means extra room in the shed for the 2 projects and no trailer in the garage! That is the first step for me getting started.
Let's get it Started!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Bring them to the wrench session.
Can't decide if I like the all black look but I can't wait to see it finished. If the gas tank is still an issue and you have a few bucks to spend on a professional job you should try Don Hart Restoration.
http://www.donhart.com/gastanks.htm
My son and I have an ongoing Rebel project bike and they did an amazing job on the tank and it comes with a 10 year warranty.
Quote from: drkngas on December 30, 2008, 09:41:12 AM
professional job you should try Don Hart Restoration.
http://www.donhart.com/gastanks.htm
My son and I have an ongoing Rebel project bike and they did an amazing job on the tank and it comes with a 10 year warranty.
Yes I believe thy do top notch work, what did it set you back?
Quote from: TLRam1 on December 30, 2008, 05:48:30 PM
Quote from: drkngas on December 30, 2008, 09:41:12 AM
professional job you should try Don Hart Restoration.
http://www.donhart.com/gastanks.htm
My son and I have an ongoing Rebel project bike and they did an amazing job on the tank and it comes with a 10 year warranty.
Yes I believe thy do top notch work, what did it set you back?
The quote was $185 but when I picked it up they only charged me $125. The Rebel tank is pretty small so I was assuming that was why it was cheaper. I would've gladly paid $185 for the job they did.