I have decided to take my WR250 and dual sport it, put plates on, street legal. I am doing the bare minimum, high & low beam, tail light – brake light, horn, license plate light and one mirror, no blinkers and the horn is there as in fixture. The bike is all AC, no DC and no battery, I have no plans of installing one either. The horn works well on DC, I will attempt to adjust for AC voltage, if that does not work I will probably get a bicycle hand bugle horn to pass inspection with.
This bike is designed to go anywhere and with what I am doing will not take that ability away. I am excited to have such a bike I can ride on the street and run across any kind of dirt, mountain, hill, mud, creek etc and hit it without hesitation. When I take it to the hard core or enduro racing all I will need to remove is the mirror.
For a speedometer I will run a bicycle speedometer (called bike computers now), the device has a magnetic pickup, I plan to get a disk magnet from the hardware store to use with this.
With much of the parts installed, you will not notice much difference, this is the bike.
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I bought this switch control that handles the headlights, horn, blinkers (if you have any), and on top is a blue high beam LED indicator.
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You will see the pressure rear brake switch I installed, only the rear will activate the brake light, none on the front brake. I replaced the banjo bolt that secures the hydraulic brake line with the pressure switch.
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Pickup an old car tire to make a license plate holder, turns out it the tire is too thick, so on to plan B.
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Before license plate is installed.
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Horn was installed in here, look hard.
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Here it is.
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The business end that makes all this work, all wires are green because that's what I had on hand. Lol
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Installed the LED light and that is the one mirror for the bike. It all worked tonight except I busted the inline resister for the LED. I will have to see what resister I need, the other is in pieces I squashed it with a washer. If you know, tell me, keep me from having proceed with research and the trial and error method.
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Very cool. I have often thought how nice an enduro might be on my commute, as there are several "shortcuts" I could take on one if I did not mind getting a little dirty. :lol:
Pretty cool do you plan on putting a seat on it? lol
You all know my comment... Note my avatar.
Well, you aint in TEXAS! 8)
I KNOW it's wrong, but I have been riding with expired tags since last Oct 31st. I do my best not to stay in front of good officer of the law if I can help it, but they just are not that anal here if you are riding reasonably. I always have all my gear on and usually my backpack strapped on the backseat, as 99% of my riding is on a commute.
Quote from: Jerry G Turner on April 19, 2009, 08:13:05 AM
Pretty cool do you plan on putting a seat on it? lol
THAT's why I'm sore today!
Quote from: hootmon on April 19, 2009, 10:12:10 AM
You all know my comment... Note my avatar.
Yep, I forgot....more photos to come though, it will be there. My memory these days, not so good. :-o
QuoteI KNOW it's wrong, but I have been riding with expired tags since last Oct 31st. I do my best not to stay in front of good officer of the law if I can help it, but they just are not that anal here if you are riding reasonably. I always have all my gear on and usually my backpack strapped on the backseat, as 99% of my riding is on a commute.
Ah, he don't care if your legal, he's just looking for his Seafoam :???:
Oh YEAH! Duh!! I feel stupider than I look. hey, I can say it, not you! :grin:
Very nice. My dual sport tires where more street then dirt yours are dirt tires. Enjoy the ride.
If you are working on it next weekend I maybe able to come over and help you on it.
Hey Terry, I've been thinking about doing that to my TTR. Do you have to have a neutral indicating light and a high beam light to pass inspection??
How aggressive of a knobbie can you get that will also be street legal??
I have a battery on mine so the electronics arent a problem. The mirrors I installed are collapsable so I leave them on for dirt riding but that was to watch out for my kids. The bad news.. I dropped the bike on the corner of my trailer and poked a hole in the carb boot and broke of the choke cable at the carb.... is there a way to seal that boot?
If it is required to have a neutral light it will probably still pass if you go to a oil changing / inspection place. I stopped by one near the house to get Brenda's tags, the only thing they looked at was the weight of the bike written on the frame plate and record the mileage.
QuoteFor a speedometer I will run a bicycle speedometer (called bike computers now), the device has a magnetic pickup, I plan to get a disk magnet from the hardware store to use with this.
Terry they have one in the package and when I did my CBR I mounted it on the front fork and put the magnet in the front rotor bolt fit perfect
Quote from: Magnum Magna on April 19, 2009, 08:50:31 PM
Very nice. My dual sport tires where more street then dirt yours are dirt tires. Enjoy the ride.
If you are working on it next weekend I maybe able to come over and help you on it.
At this point I don't plan on using DOT tires so I will have to get the bike inspected from a place who doesn't check this out ie: not a dealer, if I'm charged too much for tags I will borrow one from another bike for times I will be on the street.
Quote from: drkngas on April 19, 2009, 09:16:19 PM
Hey Terry, I've been thinking about doing that to my TTR. Do you have to have a neutral indicating light and a high beam light to pass inspection??
How aggressive of a knobbie can you get that will also be street legal??
I have a battery on mine so the electronics arent a problem. The mirrors I installed are collapsable so I leave them on for dirt riding but that was to watch out for my kids. The bad news.. I dropped the bike on the corner of my trailer and poked a hole in the carb boot and broke of the choke cable at the carb.... is there a way to seal that boot?
I do not have a neutral light (none needed) and for motorcycles you do not need a highbeam indicator, IIRC, I saw this somewhere and might be able to pull it up again, in cars you Do need a High B. light.
Does your TTR have lights? If so, this setup would cost about 115-150 dollars.
The boot, you could get a patch of rubber and glue it over the hole with a glue resistant to fuel. We do this to diaphragm's all the time with silicone, don't see why that would not work, maybe a glob of silicone over the hole would be fine.
Quote from: TLRam1 on April 19, 2009, 11:16:27 PM
Quote from: Magnum Magna on April 19, 2009, 08:50:31 PM
Very nice. My dual sport tires where more street then dirt yours are dirt tires. Enjoy the ride.
If you are working on it next weekend I maybe able to come over and help you on it.
I'm charged too much for tags I will borrow one from another bike for times I will be on the street.
Terry :shock: YOU??? :shock: I might believe swapping plates on trailers but "BIKES"??? WOW...
Finally finished my plates and swapping most over to the new bike.
This is still on the WR250, this was just finished than I decided to buy the 450, about to be swapped to the WR450, for the board LEO's :P it does have a plate light.
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The LED plate light would be here, tucked under pretty good.
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Hard to see the plate from this angle.
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Some of the mods I may end up doing is removing the snorkel.
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Not sure if I will cut the two spots on the air box.
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I am about to tear into the carb for jetting. The throttle stop prevents these bikes from opening the carb slide wide open, only goes about 3/4.
1. Cut the throttle stop to allow full carb slide opening
2. Cut the grey wire to allow YZ timing which changes the timing curve for the change in the carburetor, it hits harder also.
3. Remove snorkel
4. Pipe end cap replaced, opens up the exhaust.
5. Jetting, Main, Leak, Pilot, maybe change the needle to the YZ.
Changed and bleed the front and rear brakes. Haven't made it to bed yet so I will turn in now and see you guys .....today! :lol:
I deleted a mess of mail, if I did not answer your PM, plz resend. Sniffing too much Berrymans! :P
For the ones who have never ridden dirt bikes it's a blast to play around on or take it further and race. How about a MOOT dirt riding day? :idea: No cars, you can fall down, do wheelies, cross creeks, ride like a bat of....test your skills at hill climbing or coming down, hit the woods for some trail riding.
Update.
I have the 450 back together after all the performance mods completed (cut he throttle stop screw to allow wide open throttle, change timing curve closer to YZ, timed accelerator pump timing), new jets through-out(sounded pretty good on the stand, yet to ride it though), gutted and added new tailpipe endcap, bunch of other stuff.
The radiators were bent so I sent them off to be straightened, came back pretty good, and will probably add a adjustable fuel screw.
Lately researching for tail racks and a inexpensive way to carry extra fuel, may have this figured out but still looking at options. Seems about every bike will have a different set of options regarding fuel. Looking at a few GPS that would work for the uses intended for duel sporting, like getting lost and staying on a track and not on private land. :oops: :P Trying to plan our first duel sport trip to Arkansas.
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Back from repairs.
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Nice looking welds
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Last but not least...
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Insured and inspected, no title yet so no tags.
Pulled the trigger on this rack tonight and a couple of 1.5 Litre fuel bottles Curtis is so fond of for extra fuel. If they work out well I will buy another for 4.5 Litres of fuel and a small tailbag on top the rack for trail tools, patches, and the like.
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Ordered a rack to carry extra fuel supplies or whatever you might need. Nice light aluminum rack weights less than 2 pounds. I had to fab a spacer and obtain a longer bolt for the rack to mount up nice and secure and cut a piece of fender for it to fit, looks good on. It is a low profile tucked tight to the rear fender.
Smaller than I thought but I believe it will work fine. I can add a platform and U-bolts if I need to enlarge the area.
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Doesn't set far from off the rear.
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Spacer and where fender was cut.
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Fuel bottles I will carry extra go-juice in, each one is 1.5 Litre. Very thin wall makes for light weight. When you pick one up you expect some weight like a propane bottle but it's light as a feather!
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Because the bottles are thin I decided to add foam on the rack to prevent dents in the bottles. Cut this foam also for the seat and Zip-tied it on using 3 ft. Zip-ties!
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Looking Good!
Where did you get the extra tank cylinders. I may want to get some for Brenda's bike and sidecar. We should pick the bike up this Saturday.
I didn't think you made it up there last week due to the rain. I bought the bottles from a outdoor supplies place off ebay, I already threw his card away. Fast ship, looks like an independent.
You can get various sizes, I thought I might carry one when I head out on trips, with the gas mileage I sometimes get my calculations are way off.
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PRIMUS 1.5 LITER (1335 ML) CAPACITY FUEL BOTTLE NEW
I love the rounding of numbers
motorcycles 750 is a 748
computer 144 is a 139
the fuel can 1.5 is 1.335
I bought a USB memory stick last year forgetting to take that into account. I keep the stick but had to go back and buy the next size larger.
yes on the memory stick. The newer ones these days come with "management" software of one kind or another and neglect to tell you that is taking up a percentage of the memory on the stick.
Took my first duel sport trip with about 40 others in Clarksville AR.
Arrived Friday night around 10:30, while in the office John went back to check out the bikes on the trailer, took one look at the wheel and there was no tire! The tire had flew off, the bead was still on the rim but no sidewall or tire and neither of us never knew. Off to Walmart for a new tire, tail lamp, wire nuts, etc. Back to the motel where a couple of guys were out and offered their help with tools picking up the trailer for the tire change and tail light housing replacement. We also copied the six routes highlighted for the next days ride.
Saturday we went to breakfast than off to the riders meeting (or no meeting) asked about the routes and picked the most difficult one. Boring in the first part in many failed attempts to navigate where to go. Bad maps with no county roads many U turns and asking questions from locals. Finally we locate the start of the trek, head down where we run into a couple of other riders, small talk we take off with the others in tow. Not to far down are trees across the trek and the others in tow turn around. We continue on going around or over trees (I thought what a good time to practice technique), we get into some pretty gnarly trails, rocks, and hit water crossings. My bike is too tall for various reasons so I had to twist the throttle because my feet would not touch the ground until I was already falling over.
First creek was wide and flat, the others could put their feet down in a slippery situation, I had to hit it harder and hope for the best which was dumping the bike in the moss. Next water crossing was deeper, Joe (made it across) and waited down close to the water, I hollered YOU BETTER GET OUT OF THE WAY, he takes off quick, I nailed the throttle and hit it hard to the other side than BAM, back wheel was stuck in the water on the bank but I made it through, next crossing was Rocky. When I say rocky, not small gravel but decent sized rocks, I made it through on the bank where rocks started bouncing me around and I dumped it again. Okay, this is getting old and I'm getting tired!
Having a blast though and I did want the tougher stuff. Continue on stopping to look at nice scenery, creeks and wildlife. We hit another challenge, where Joe was stuck on a hill so I going to fly up another direction and wait on Joe and John. Front wheel was no problem and went up, the back wheel was another story, remember I have to hit it faster, the rear wheel was a dead stop compressed the springs and threw me horizontally against a tree. This one hurt, knocked the breath out of me, unable to stand up on my feet, or speak, I saw Joe still trying to get his bike up and me incapacitated until I could catch some air and the pain subsided. Similar to a fast ball thrown into your ribs with no interference to slow it down. I didn't hear a crunch inside so hoping all was okay.
We discover John broke the weld on his shifter, back to town we go for a welder to strike a bead on what was left attached at 20 percent. Broke down where the shaft is welded to the part that goes over the shifter shaft from the motor. If it broke there would be no way to shift the motor with your foot other than a pair of pliers before you took off. The first guy pulled out a wire feed welder and proceeded to weld, we look at each other and ask the guy, where's your helmet, I don't need a helmet, won't be but a little bit I'll be alright. We question again and received the same answer, luckily his welder would not work and we headed to another shop.
Back out we go for more fun, stopped at a ladies house I ask her for directions and a café. We found a great little café at the end of civilization, ran by a lady her daughter and an 80 yr old guy named Bud who did the best pies! All the food was excellent. Open faced sandwich layered with smoked pork with a wonderful gravy, pinto beans, mashed potatoes, coleslaw, yeast rolls, all homemade and topped off with a piece of pie. The lady pointed us to a pretty good way back, part of the way Joe's back tire looked low, picked up a nail, pull the nail out and continue on with his flat rear tire. Short time before than my aftermarket baffle blew out, luckily Joe picked it up. We had about 35-40 miles to go back to our motel, his rear tire did okay, a few miles before town a heavy rain hit, soaked us good and filled our boots with water. Saturday night we had work to be done on bikes, flat tire and somewhere along the way my electric start stopped working, tightened mirrors and pack up items that fell off.
Sunday we planned to ride then head back late that afternoon, about a 6 hour drive, with a big storm headed in many of us decided to head back instead of riding, problem was we had no place to come back to. I was in pain so that idea was okay with me.
I am recuperating now, sore ribs, not able to do much. Had lots of fun, found a good place to eat, now I have to fix the weaknesses for a better time next time out. I did not take my camera, no place to put it and didn't want to crush the camera in case of a dismount or several. No proof reading here, plz bear with my mistakes.
The bike performed well, I had 2 extra pads on the seat for comfort. With the seat height at 39.2" the pads brought this well over 40-plus inches. That is an area I need to address, too tall and make the seat softer in the process. New battery went south on me, maybe a better battery will handle the vibration better and being beat around.
I am recuperating now, sore ribs, not able to do much All in the name of fun it's strange how we define having a good time.
Quote from: Jerry G Turner on May 26, 2009, 04:49:44 AM
I am recuperating now, sore ribs, not able to do much All in the name of fun it's strange how we define having a good time.
:lol: :lol: :-P
I thought I would wake up and be much better today. :-(
WOW!! were you humming the tune to 'Deliverence' while you wrote that????
Sounds like too much fun!!!!!!!!!
When you get where we were at, the thought could easily happen, civilian law might not be so bad. :-P
It was fun Bob, I have work to do for a better ride next time. i think anyone would have a blast riding on duel sport or dirt bike. I think the next big one is in Mexico.
Quote from: TLRam1 on May 26, 2009, 08:52:35 AM
Quote from: Jerry G Turner on May 26, 2009, 04:49:44 AM
I am recuperating now, sore ribs, not able to do much All in the name of fun it's strange how we define having a good time.
:lol: :lol: :-P
I thought I would wake up and be much better today. :-(
After talking with a couple of fellows and sneezing again today which kills ya, I decided to do the X-ray, number 8 rib is fractured. If I can keep from sneezing or coughing it's not too bad, slowing moving but one of the mentioned and Ouch, that stops you for a while.
Sorry to hear that hope it heals quickly so you can go have some more fun, know telling what you might be able to break having some more fun. Really hope you heal quickly.
WOW Get some rest. I am sending a PM.
Quote from: Jerry G Turner on May 29, 2009, 09:45:51 PM
Sorry to hear that hope it heals quickly so you can go have some more fun, know telling what you might be able to break having some more fun. Really hope you heal quickly.
Like all of this except the breaking-part! :P :P Thanks alot Jerry. The doctor said about 6 weeks out, wonder if I can shorten this some, where's Greg when you need him, repair of a different nature. :grin:
Thanks for the words Jerry. I will be looking for a larger chest protector and lowering the bike for help with slow maneuverability. Footing is nil with the seat height as it is. Maybe I can send my seat to Charles to mess with also, we will see.
Quote from: Magnum Magna on May 29, 2009, 11:31:16 PM
WOW Get some rest. I am sending a PM.
Got it, thanks and PMed back at ya.
Terry I am right were I usually am, right here waiting for you to come on over so I can rough ya up some! LoL.. If the rib is dislocated then they will do something about it. Otherwise they will "bind" ya up or tape ya up and say fill this pain prescription hehehehehehe.
Hope ya back to normal quick!
Greg ....Did you say "Normal"....Can you define for us?
Quote from: Greg Cothern on May 30, 2009, 10:40:50 AMright here waiting for you to come on over so I can rough ya up some! LoL..
Hope ya back to normal quick!
Ouch! that hurts reading it. :-P Back to normal would be great, thanks.
I have thought long and hard about Normal and Terry in the same conversation. STILL THINKING!
Quote from: TLRam1 on May 30, 2009, 01:51:52 AM
where's Greg when you need him
Quote from: Greg Cothern on June 04, 2009, 05:42:12 PM
I have thought long and hard about Normal and Terry in the same conversation. STILL THINKING!
Just when you think he's not reading these.... he pops his head in from no-where. :P
Thought I posted this.
Received a nice machined hunk of aluminum called a Yamalink to lower the bike 1.75 inches, this also has an added bonus of two grease zerks.
Nicely done!
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