The guy doing the cad / photo work got me the photos / images of the rectifier relocation bracket.
The first is a 3D cad of the rectifier and bracket.
The second is the 3D photoshopped onto my bike... Not real.. but looks good!
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A couple of questions/comments.
Is the bracket made out of steel or aluminum.. I think aluminum would be better as it would work as a better heat sink
IF this is the finished product, it would look better if it were black anodized.
I was thinking of doing a poll but Im with you on that.
Aluminum. and i can get it anodized in many colors but black is what i expect.
Other material would be Stainless Steel
Other colors would be:
Clear
Blue
I'd buy an aluminum one in anodized blue. When do you think these will be ready for sale?
I like it already!
Good idea, Len! Gives it some supprt and additional heatsinking. :cool:
I am liking it.
Bolted to the frame will act like an additional heat sink
Add a little thermal paste and there should be no more problems !!! Looks Great Len
Looks Great! Looks like that's going to do the job.
I cant wait to get one Len.... REALLY cant wait, hehehe. I got the new reg in from David a couple weeks back and waiting for the final product before installing it on the Project 96...
I have run temperature rise tests on the relocation that Jim Tindall and I did on our R/R units. If you want temp data on the same unit on this bracket, I will gladly remount the unit and take data.
Hi All,
I have an idea for a relocation mount and a better heat sink. I am a mechanical designer and I use AutoCad, Solid Works, and mostly Pro Engineer for my designing software. I heard that Honda has a great R/R but they did not supply enough heat sink or fin area to the case. If we could get enough members that would be interested I would design and create a print for a mounting kit that is made out of extruded aluminium that is heat sink material. I could get some quotes or if any of you guys have a friend that has a machine shop you could. The problem with the idea is you have to purchase a 8' piece to get a good price. We could get maybe 32 pieces from one bar. We could machine out the middle to fit the r/r and lose all that surface area or mount it on the back and use long 8-32 SHCS for the mounting. I have a 1st Gen and mine is mounted in a different location. You might be able to order a saw cut piece from McMasterCarr but you will pay Obama prices.
Check out this machine shop ONLINE! Design and they will make it :) I'm thinking of sending a drawing of a mount to move the VTX light foreward a bit. They can make anything and send it to you. http://www.emachineshop.com/
Chad Greg has the mounts to move the VTX light already give him a shout!!!
really? wow, i didn't know that! :) COOL!
QuoteHi All,
I have an idea for a relocation mount and a better heat sink. I am a mechanical designer and I use AutoCad, Solid Works, and mostly Pro Engineer for my designing software. I heard that Honda has a great R/R but they did not supply enough heat sink or fin area to the case. If we could get enough members that would be interested I would design and create a print for a mounting kit that is made out of extruded aluminium that is heat sink material. I could get some quotes or if any of you guys have a friend that has a machine shop you could. The problem with the idea is you have to purchase a 8' piece to get a good price. We could get maybe 32 pieces from one bar. We could machine out the middle to fit the r/r and lose all that surface area or mount it on the back and use long 8-32 SHCS for the mounting. I have a 1st Gen and mine is mounted in a different location. You might be able to order a saw cut piece from McMasterCarr but you will pay Obama prices
Hey Cadmandu, welcome to Moot, the R/R topic is one of the oldest most posted on topics on this forum. If you want to catch up a little check out this thread 8)
http://www.magnaownersoftexas.com/forums/index.php?topic=2167.0
We ran some stress analysis on the bracket as designed.
in aluminum it would eventually fatigue brake due to bending it. harder grade aluminum doesn't like to be bent. softer aluminum is easy to bend but remains that way. machining the bracket would be the best but its too cost prohibitive.
Making the unit out of Stainless steel actually held up better.
The analysis was using Solidworks built in features.
So I'm going to get it quoted made from 308 stainless
What about heat treating the Al. or machining extrusion?
QuoteWhat about heat treating the Al. or machining extrusion?
We have a aluminum heat sink that we use that is custom extruded and it is very expensive to do that. the $8K cost of the dies alone would be more than the cost of 100 parts which is what I'm guessing is the max sell quantity of this part.
Machining any part from a billet add lots and lots of labor costs and a lot of material waste even if done with CNC.
As for heat treating, I'm not sure, would have to ask, don't know if that would help or hurt or that you can heat treat aluminum.
Steel would be best but we would have to paint it or powder coat it, this would negate some of the "heatsink" property's of the bracket.
Stainless steel is next for plyability and still allows a metal to metal heatsink and has a good cosmetic appearance.
Aluminum is third best, would be second if the fatigue issue wasn't a problem. Even anodized it keeps a good metal to metal heatsink.
... or maybe welding pieces of sheet Al. to a piece of angle Al.?
Heat treating is probably to expensive if you don't already have the equipment but here is some info on heat treating...
http://www.engineersedge.com/aluminum_tempers.htm
http://www.keytometals.com/article39.htm