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Title: Scootworks Belt Drive Conversion for 3rd Gen Magnas
Post by: Chad in Michigan on July 25, 2009, 01:43:51 PM
 

http://www.shopscootworks.com/productdetail.htm?browse=-21354&productId=-151194&shopBy=-3078&catalogId=-799



The newest development by ScootWorks for the Honda Magna 750 chain driven bikes. This new system has been in development since 2006, and was specially developed for the Honda Magna's power & torque output at high RPM ranges.

LOW belt tension makes for easy setup and maintenance, 1-piece pulley assembly to eliminate flange detachment, 14mm belt tooth profile allows for a slip-free system, and the newest belt technology is implemented for LONG LONG LONG belt life.

This system is a completely new design, from the pulleys, drive hub, belting, flange retainment, and more. This is the technology found in our new line of MondoDrives for high performance cruisers and sport bikes like the Suzuki Hayabusa and Triumph Legend. Designed to take a beating...see the videos in the 'Information Center' on the front of the site from the 'HOME' link above.

The ratio of this system is 2.4:1, similar to a common sprocket setup for more relaxed highway cruising of a 17 tooth front and 41 tooth rear sprocket. Just right to let your bike rumble comfortably on the open road, while retaining loads of low-end torque. . .



Title: Re: Scootworks Belt Drive Conversion for 3rd Gen Magnas
Post by: tmds3 on July 25, 2009, 02:05:40 PM
Now I need $600, think I could qualify for a bailout?
Title: Re: Scootworks Belt Drive Conversion for 3rd Gen Magnas
Post by: hootmon on July 25, 2009, 03:17:36 PM
It is a great item..
If I hadn't just replaced my chain and sprockets this year.. Maybe... But $600 on a bike that has 70K on it?? Hummm.. I'd love to have it, but I don't see me buying it anytime soooooooooon..
Title: Re: Scootworks Belt Drive Conversion for 3rd Gen Magnas
Post by: Magniac on July 25, 2009, 08:18:52 PM
I would need to see pictures and find out what's required for installation. I saw a kit for the VLX 600 which required cutting the swing arm and putting it back together with a sleeve and a couple of bolts. Don't think I'd want to do that to my Magna.
Title: Re: Scootworks Belt Drive Conversion for 3rd Gen Magnas
Post by: Sledge Hammer on July 26, 2009, 12:29:05 AM
Quote from: Magniac on July 25, 2009, 08:18:52 PM
I would need to see pictures and find out what's required for installation. I saw a kit for the VLX 600 which required cutting the swing arm and putting it back together with a sleeve and a couple of bolts. Don't think I'd want to do that to my Magna.

That does not appear to be the case with the Scootworks kit. I downloaded the instructions for installing the kit on the Magna, and it mentions nothing about cutting the swing arm. It does, however, require temporarily removing the swing arm and then reinstalling it.

It's tempting, but I am not convinced a belt is superior to a chain in this application. With 1/4" vertical deflection of the belt for 10 lbs of applied upward pressure on it, would that much tension put the primary drive bearings under more load than they are with a chain with 1" of slack?
Title: Re: Scootworks Belt Drive Conversion for 3rd Gen Magnas
Post by: packge33 on July 27, 2009, 08:56:00 PM
what is the point of the chain-guard with that system??
Title: Re: Scootworks Belt Drive Conversion for 3rd Gen Magnas
Post by: dgc67 on July 28, 2009, 06:04:17 AM
Quotewhat is the point of the chain-guard with that system??
Same as with a chain.  Keeps your pants leg, or similar, from easily getting caught up by the belt.  Offers at least SOME protection if the belt breaks.
Title: Re: Scootworks Belt Drive Conversion for 3rd Gen Magnas
Post by: Smoked U on July 29, 2009, 08:04:13 PM
Hmmm.

$ 600.00 would buy a few chains and spockets.
Title: Re: Scootworks Belt Drive Conversion for 3rd Gen Magnas
Post by: Charles S Otwell on July 29, 2009, 09:51:17 PM
Or one chain and lots of chrome 8). Well a lot by my budget :D..
Title: Re: Scootworks Belt Drive Conversion for 3rd Gen Magnas
Post by: Sledge Hammer on July 29, 2009, 10:43:23 PM
Quote from: Smoked U on July 29, 2009, 08:04:13 PM
Hmmm.

$ 600.00 would buy a few chains and spockets.

Yep, and I would expect the chains to last longer than belts with proper maintenance. Methinks belt drive for a Magna is an answer in search of a question, and I can't get over how much tension the belt has to be under. I cannot help but think it would add a lot of stress to the primary drive bearings and seals.
Title: Re: Scootworks Belt Drive Conversion for 3rd Gen Magnas
Post by: robertdwest on August 05, 2009, 11:17:06 PM
Since I saw the Scootworks conversion for the Shadow I wondered what it would take for the Magna.  the questions in regards to the tension give me reason for thought on this modifications.  Since all my mods have been put on the back burner until October 2010 (things to take care of on the honey do list first) it gives me time to look for reviews. 

I have read the installation instructions and while it looks like it would be time consuming, at least it does not require cutting the swing arm like the shadow.  I'd love to hear from anyone who does this mod to find out what they think.  It would be nice not to have to continually lube the chain and clean the back rim.
Title: Re: Scootworks Belt Drive Conversion for 3rd Gen Magnas
Post by: alesterfeind on November 20, 2009, 07:58:24 AM
Has anyone installed one of these yet? 

I noticed some people were commenting that a chain would last longer than a belt.  Actually, from what I understand, a belt that is properly installed will last over 50k miles, with no maintenance required.  Plus, you don't have all that dirty oil slinging all over your wheels.  It is pricey though.  I will probably make this a winter project, and I will let everyone know how it went.
Title: Re: Scootworks Belt Drive Conversion for 3rd Gen Magnas
Post by: hootmon on November 20, 2009, 08:28:15 AM
Quote from: alesterfeind on November 20, 2009, 07:58:24 AM
Has anyone installed one of these yet?  

I noticed some people were commenting that a chain would last longer than a belt.  Actually, from what I understand, a belt that is properly installed will last over 50k miles, with no maintenance required.  Plus, you don't have all that dirty oil slinging all over your wheels.  It is pricey though.  I will probably make this a winter project, and I will let everyone know how it went.

First - Welcome John from Sunny Safety Harbor, Floriduh...

From what I have heard, you are correct, most belts go 50K+.
I would have some concern about the primary drive bearing, but would love to have a belt on my Magna.. Chains suck!!
Let us know if you decide to move forwrd and how it progresses.. Take some pictures and post them here if you would!!!

BTW - what area are you in??
Title: Re: Scootworks Belt Drive Conversion for 3rd Gen Magnas
Post by: robertdwest on November 21, 2009, 04:51:40 PM
Just wanted to post an update.  It is my intention to purchase the conversion in January and change out while I am getting new tires put on the rims.  I will take step by step pictures and post updates on performace once I'm up and running.  If anyone else has purchased and installed I'd like to hear your thoughts.
Title: Re: Scootworks Belt Drive Conversion for 3rd Gen Magnas
Post by: alesterfeind on December 13, 2009, 08:22:48 AM
Hey Hootman. I am in the Dallas area in Flower Mound, Tx.
Title: Re: Scootworks Belt Drive Conversion for 3rd Gen Magnas
Post by: TLRam1 on December 14, 2009, 06:21:14 AM
Quote from: alesterfeind on December 13, 2009, 08:22:48 AM
Hey Hootman. I am in the Dallas area in Flower Mound, Tx.

Aww, you are not too far from Hootmon, he comes over on a regular basis for weekend jaunts.  :P
Title: Re: Scootworks Belt Drive Conversion for 3rd Gen Magnas
Post by: Troystg on April 12, 2010, 11:10:16 AM
Pulling this thread back from the bottom.

I want to replace the chain / sprockets on Ole Blue..   OR convert to belt.

Bikes @ 35K miles.  And since they changed my rear tire I can hear the chain "clink" which I think is the rear tire not straight (aligned).  But in reality it is an excuse to change something..   :lol:

Has anyone tried this yet?

If not:

1. Should I be the guinea pig?
2. Should I stick with stock chain drive?
3. If I stick with chain do I:
    a. Stock sprockets?
    b. Different sprockets for more acceleration?
    c. Different for better fuel economy?

4. Should I start a poll?




Title: Re: Scootworks Belt Drive Conversion for 3rd Gen Magnas
Post by: Magniac on April 12, 2010, 11:16:29 AM
With regard to your question 3, I say yes to a,b,&c. I have the stock 40-tooth rear, and 3 front sprockets, 15, 16, & 17 teeth. It makes it a 10-minute job to tailor the bike for acceleration, "normal" around-town riding or long distance highway cruising. Cheap and easy conversion.
Title: Re: Scootworks Belt Drive Conversion for 3rd Gen Magnas
Post by: Troystg on April 12, 2010, 11:22:40 AM
Does changing between the front sprockets require adjusting the rear tire?

And that is a good idea... 
Title: Re: Scootworks Belt Drive Conversion for 3rd Gen Magnas
Post by: hootmon on April 12, 2010, 12:20:10 PM
What Magniac said.. And yes, you need to re-adjust the chain when you are finished swapping out the front sprocket.. The truth is, you need to move the rear wheel forward to relieve the chain tension on the front sprocket to change it out, then slide it back to proper adjustment..

If you have 35K on the chain, it's probably time for a new one anywayz..
Title: Re: Scootworks Belt Drive Conversion for 3rd Gen Magnas
Post by: drkngas on April 12, 2010, 09:23:09 PM
Somebody by the Belt already!! Enquiring minds want to know!!
Title: Re: Scootworks Belt Drive Conversion for 3rd Gen Magnas
Post by: hootmon on April 12, 2010, 10:17:01 PM
Quote from: drkngas on April 12, 2010, 09:23:09 PM
Somebody by the Belt already!! Enquiring minds want to know!!

David.. Maybe if you put a big enough  T Terry will by one??
Title: Re: Scootworks Belt Drive Conversion for 3rd Gen Magnas
Post by: Magniac on April 13, 2010, 11:05:59 PM
Think about this . . . Why is it that EVERY racing motorcycle uses a chain, not a belt?

Jus' sayin' . . .
Title: Re: Scootworks Belt Drive Conversion for 3rd Gen Magnas
Post by: hootmon on April 13, 2010, 11:29:40 PM
Quote from: Magniac on April 13, 2010, 11:05:59 PM
Think about this . . . Why is it that EVERY racing motorcycle uses a chain, not a belt?

Jus' sayin' . . .

I don't know.. Almost every Harley I raced had a belt.. Maybe that was there issue/excuse???
Title: Re: Scootworks Belt Drive Conversion for 3rd Gen Magnas
Post by: tmds3 on April 14, 2010, 09:26:08 AM
Quote from: hootmon on April 13, 2010, 11:29:40 PM
Quote from: Magniac on April 13, 2010, 11:05:59 PM
Think about this . . . Why is it that EVERY racing motorcycle uses a chain, not a belt?

Jus' sayin' . . .

I don't know.. Almost every Harley I raced had a belt.. Maybe that was there issue/excuse???
You guys need to leave them poor Harley riders alone, they probably feel bad enough about the money that they spent and then you go and beat them in a race an a bike you probably paid 1/3 as much for. :cool:
Title: Re: Scootworks Belt Drive Conversion for 3rd Gen Magnas
Post by: TLRam1 on April 14, 2010, 10:24:33 AM
Quote from: hootmon on April 12, 2010, 10:17:01 PM
Quote from: drkngas on April 12, 2010, 09:23:09 PM
Somebody by the Belt already!! Enquiring minds want to know!!

David.. Maybe if you put a big enough  T Terry will by one??

Not hardly.

Not because I'm against it....
Title: Re: Scootworks Belt Drive Conversion for 3rd Gen Magnas
Post by: Fitzgerald on April 14, 2010, 02:00:33 PM
someone send me $600 and I'll be the guinea pig.