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Title: Turn signal conversion
Post by: bgayler on March 25, 2006, 07:44:07 AM
Has anyone tried the rear turn signal conversions from Electrical Connection? Their system sounds too good to be true. $49.95 converts your rear turn signals to red running lights/brake lights and leaves your turn signal amber. Sounds like MAGIC. Just wondered if anyone has actually tried them. ( I should have asked BEFORE I ordered.)
Title: Turn Signal conversion
Post by: Marc Albea on March 25, 2006, 08:44:51 AM
Never heard of them but would certainly be interested in knowing how it works!!!!

Marc.
Title: Turn signal conversion
Post by: Greg Cothern on March 25, 2006, 09:47:54 AM
I own a kit but been too lazy to install it LoL.  Seen one installed works like they say!
Title: Turn signal conversion
Post by: MagnaMan on March 25, 2006, 10:16:13 AM
I've been wanting to do that conversion. Let me know what you think of their performance and the ease of installation, since you're volunteering to be the guniea pig. :)
Title: Turn signal conversion
Post by: Weinercat on March 25, 2006, 10:46:51 AM
I saw these at the Chicago motorcycle show and they looked great on the bike and on a stand alone display. Please please let us know how they are on your Magna.  I'd love to get them as well.
Title: Turn signal conversion
Post by: roboto65 on March 26, 2006, 05:44:58 AM
What I had was a system on my sport bike was the rear tail light had 2 blubs in it and it took both and made a brake tail and turn signal out of it of course everything was red hehehehe but it worked great allowed you to do away with the big turn signal lights all together so you had a smooth tail ehehehehehehehe
Title: Turn signal conversion
Post by: bgayler on March 27, 2006, 06:43:12 PM
Here is all of the information at their website: http://www.electricalconnection.com/other-lighting/tsk-star&sport.htm
I now have more problems than lighting.
Title: Turn signal conversion
Post by: chel_in_il on May 28, 2007, 11:05:34 AM
I know this post is over a year old, but I just installed this kit last night. (I bought it in about August of last year, didn't know if I wanted to totally replace the lights with Kuryakyn or whatever.)

My brothers and boyfriend all have run/turn/brake controllers on their Harleys - I was the only one running a single tail. I thought it was time to finally do something about it.

It took me over an hour to install, but they work great. :) I like how the lights change from red to orange when the turn signal is active. Pretty trick! I spliced into the turning circuits in the turn signals themselves, then ran the rest of the wiring connections behind the taillight housing. Didn't like the splicers that came with the kit - I sliced the housing on the existing wires and then used electrical tape. I may go back and solder everything for a cleaner install.

For $50, it's a nice addition that helps make me be seen.

Michelle in Illinois
Title: Turn signal conversion
Post by: 2fs2ns on May 28, 2007, 11:23:54 AM
Wow, that's pretty slick, something I've been trying to do.

Add that to the list...
Title: Turn signal conversion
Post by: rjb/AKA Bob Barram on May 28, 2007, 11:23:58 AM
Michelle, any pictures of the work you did?
Title: Turn signal conversion
Post by: chel_in_il on May 28, 2007, 11:37:41 AM
I will get some and repost. I don't have any of the "work in progress" tho, but I can describe the steps.
Title: Turn signal conversion
Post by: 2fs2ns on May 28, 2007, 11:41:24 AM
So you keep your amber lenses?  The red LED's still look red through the amber lense?

EDIT: I've  been reading the reviews on the Cruiser Customizing page, most are really good.  Alot of people have replaced the lenes with smoke lenses, and replaced the stock bulb with an amber bulp to accentuate the turn signal.  Good idea...

Anyone know a good source for those smoke lenses?


http://www.cruisercustomizing.com/detail.cfm?action=reviews&model_ID=0&Category_ID=48&manufacturer_ID=223&product_ID=6421&sblid_name=reviews
Title: Turn signal conversion
Post by: chel_in_il on May 28, 2007, 12:04:13 PM
Here's some pics.. First is the bike with the left turn signal going, without brakes. Second is with brakes. When you apply the brake, the LED ring lights up. When you use the turn signals, the LED ring turns off when the signal is on, and then turns back on when the signal is off. It's a neat effect, going from red to orange.

The kit consists of the LED rings, wiring and crimps. I looked up on cruisercustomizing.com about how other people installed this kit, and some ran it all the way to the connections under their seat. I decided to keep it all in the back end. One part of the two conductor wire connects to the turn signal wire in the signal itself. The signals come apart pretty easy - remove the lens and twist the reflector out. I attached the kit wire to the wire from the signal behind the reflector. I ran the other wire out the signal through the turn signal stalk, and other through the hole that routes the wires into the brake light. That's where I connected the other two sets of wires to the running and brake lights. I tested it first before buttoning it back up.

The LED rings attach to the inside of the lenses using silicone sealer.

BTW.. the LEDs on the ring are clear - I was wondering how they'd work. But, they are red when they are powered. And yes, they look red when they are active. The color is alot more intense at night than they are in these pics that I took in my garage with the lights on.

(http://mjwidell.smugmug.com/photos/157000745-M.jpg)

(http://mjwidell.smugmug.com/photos/157000736-M.jpg)
Title: Turn signal conversion
Post by: 2fs2ns on May 28, 2007, 12:13:02 PM
Cool.  Do you recall what wires were turn signal/brake/ect?
Title: Turn signal conversion
Post by: chel_in_il on May 28, 2007, 12:28:53 PM
In the signals, the green is ground. The other wire (there are only two) is the one you want to tap into. The right signal has a green and blue, and the left has a green and orange.

In the brake light, the green/yellow is brake, the yellow/brown is tail, and the green is ground.

The kit has 4 sets of wires. Two sets are the black & black/white from the signals. The other set has a red wire with a run/brake circuit that splits off into a green and blue wire.

For the right turn signal, the black wire from the kit attaches to the blue wire, and the black/white runs into the tail light and attaches to the red wire on the run/brake circuit wire.

The left signal, the black wire from the kit attaches to the orange wire, and the black/white runs into the tail light and attaches to the red wire on the run/brake circuit wire.

The green wire from the run/brake circuit attaches to the yellow/brown wire in the tail light.

The blue wire from the run/brake circuit attaches to the green/yellow wire in the tail light.

Mine's a 94, not sure if the wiring colors are different in later years.
Title: Turn signal conversion
Post by: rjb/AKA Bob Barram on May 28, 2007, 01:47:17 PM
WOW!!!! I like it!
Title: Turn signal conversion
Post by: Greg Cothern on May 28, 2007, 03:40:28 PM
I have a set of those that I have never installed in Devins Magna....
Title: Turn signal conversion
Post by: rjb/AKA Bob Barram on May 28, 2007, 04:39:24 PM
Greg, are saying you are looking for a 3rd gen Magna to test the light install on during MM5??
Bob
Title: Turn signal conversion
Post by: Greg Cothern on May 28, 2007, 05:07:36 PM
LoL, too funny!  You bring em and I will help!!!

I need to get this partially college educated BOY to install em on his Magna!
Title: Turn signal conversion
Post by: 2fs2ns on May 28, 2007, 10:36:48 PM
Hehe, if you don't, post up, I'll buy 'em!
Title: EC kit
Post by: Lurkin on May 29, 2007, 12:37:35 PM
I installed the Electrical Connection kit on my Magna about 6 months ago and am very happy with it.  This kit, along with the Billski taillight mod, shortened turn signal stalks, and clear lenses clean up the back end of the Magna quite nicely, IMHO that is.

I had the smoked lenses for quite some time, but decided that I liked the look of the clear lenses better on a black Magna then the smoked ones.  Personal preference is all.  The smoked lenses and the amber bulb tended to look orange, and the smoked lense tended to dim the light some.  Nothing truely significant, but enough for me to change them out.
Title: Turn signal conversion
Post by: 2fs2ns on May 29, 2007, 01:28:03 PM
Good info.  Do you remember where you found your clear lenses?

Is that tailight mod the one in the Tips/Tech section.
Title: Lenses
Post by: Lurkin on May 30, 2007, 08:07:22 AM
I bought the smoked lense from either Cruisercustomizing or PhatPerformance.  They were the cheapest I found at the time (like $15 before shipping...).  After I decided I wanted to change to the clears, I posted a message on one of the other Magna sites to see if anyone wanted to trade, someone did, so we traded.

For the Billski taillight, check out www.billski182.com.  He will also sell you just the tail light/licanse plate if you want to mount some other tail light.

If you want to shorten the turn signal stalks, then check out the MRA site, or you can use the following with a couple of modifications (you need to drill the fendor mount hole larger/deeper, then tap it to the right thread size).
http://www.jpcycles.com/ProductDetail.aspx?PID=ZZ32090&cs=Metric
Title: Turn signal conversion
Post by: Greg Cothern on May 30, 2007, 05:31:51 PM
No need to drill the fender large, Cobra used to at least I think still available, made a turn signal relocation kit.
There is a write up on the MOOT site tips and tricks page..
Title: Turn signal conversion
Post by: Lurkin on May 31, 2007, 10:13:51 AM
Whoops, I didn't intend to mean drill the fendor itself.  I meant drill the J&P Cobra signal mounts such that they can be tapped to the proper Magna mount bolt size.

Also, Cobra doesn't make a direct replacement mount for the Magna any longer.  That's why I referenced the J&P Cobra plugs that can be modified.

And yes, the stalk shortening write-up is on this site's Tip & Tricks.  Thanks