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Title: Charging issue....
Post by: hootmon on May 27, 2012, 02:37:05 PM
My wife's VT1100 Sabre stopped charging...
Funny thing is, on this bike it's usually the stator...
Title: Re: Charging issue....
Post by: TLRam1 on May 27, 2012, 10:52:33 PM
Do you know that for a fact now or guessing.
Title: Re: Charging issue....
Post by: hootmon on May 27, 2012, 11:20:22 PM
Quote from: TLRam1 on May 27, 2012, 10:52:33 PM
Do you know that for a fact now or guessing.
I know it's not charging... I haven't got into the troubleshooting yet, but I am on a Sabre forum and several have replaced their stators...
Title: Re: Charging issue....
Post by: lragan on May 28, 2012, 08:19:49 AM
Well, that is somewhat refreshing -- a charging problem that is NOT a R/R... :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Charging issue....
Post by: hootmon on May 28, 2012, 09:49:25 AM
Quote from: lragan on May 28, 2012, 08:19:49 AM
Well, that is somewhat refreshing -- a charging problem that is NOT a R/R... :lol: :lol:
About the same price I think... Also may expect melted ball if plastic at the connector..
Title: Re: Charging issue....
Post by: hootmon on May 30, 2012, 01:00:52 PM
Did all the test and everything appears to be good, except it doesn't charge.. ordered a new stator & regulator plus gaskets and seals and such...
The sabre expert says it's the stator, but with 50k on the bike decided to replace both...
Title: Re: Charging issue....
Post by: TLRam1 on May 30, 2012, 08:02:38 PM
Replacing both is probably a good idea, never fun to be stranded and the further away from home the worse it is.
Title: Re: Charging issue....
Post by: hootmon on June 02, 2012, 01:12:03 PM
Well... I got the regulator in with no issue... Easier than the Magna...
Stator is another story... There is a support bracket where the wires leaves the Stator. Rick's put a bracket that is 1/4" taller and it won't fit in the cover... I guess i'll be calling them on Monday...
Title: Re: Charging issue....
Post by: TLRam1 on June 02, 2012, 01:42:34 PM
In those photos I can't tell where the bracket is.
Title: Re: Charging issue....
Post by: hootmon on June 02, 2012, 04:01:15 PM
Quote from: TLRam1 on June 02, 2012, 01:42:34 PM
In those photos I can't tell where the bracket is.
If you look in the 1st photo (stock stator) at 4 o'clock, you can see how the wires come out of the Stator and Run thru a channel built into the cover. The bracket is under the wires between the Stator and the channel (can't see due to the wires).
In the second photo at 7 o'clock you can only see part of the channel, because the bracket (again underneith the wires) is sitting on top of the channel.
Title: Re: Charging issue....
Post by: hootmon on June 02, 2012, 04:14:08 PM
Here are two more photos of the other side of the Stator.. note one has a bracket that is 3/4" and the new one is 1"
Title: Re: Charging issue....
Post by: TLRam1 on June 03, 2012, 12:45:18 AM
You probably are already thinking this, what if you take out the allen screw, cut and re-drill the hole for the bracket.
Title: Re: Charging issue....
Post by: hootmon on June 03, 2012, 07:56:14 AM
Quote from: TLRam1 on June 03, 2012, 12:45:18 AM
You probably are already thinking this, what if you take out the allen screw, cut and re-drill the hole for the bracket.
Could be done, but the part comes with a 1 year warranty.. I think that would probably void the warranty.. I'll just have to wait until Monday to talk to the company..  

It's also sort of all covered in resin... So, not sure how it would come out and what would become not protected from the oil bath.
Title: Re: Charging issue....
Post by: hootmon on June 04, 2012, 05:08:55 PM
Spoke to Rick's today..
They were thankful for the pictures I sent them.
This Stator fits bikes all the way back to the 80's..
Somewhere along the way, Honda added the channel for the wires to run through.
They approved for me to modify the bracket myself (not voiding the warranty).
Rick's is modifing the design going forward based on my pictures...
They said not to worry about the resin being broken as oil seeps in eventually anyways and doesn't cause any issues.
Title: Re: Charging issue....
Post by: TLRam1 on June 04, 2012, 06:46:39 PM
Good deal, now, do you think you can do the modification.
Title: Re: Charging issue....
Post by: hootmon on June 04, 2012, 09:20:34 PM
Mod completed...
They will also need to move the grommets (the sealing rubber where the wires go thru the case) up about 3/4" also... I was not able to add the bracket that covers the wires thru the channel inside the case...
I will inform them tomorrow...
All three covers are back on and wires threaded up to under the seat... I'll finish tomorrow, and see if things work...
Title: Re: Charging issue....
Post by: TLRam1 on June 04, 2012, 10:08:12 PM
Hello, Mod Photos?
Title: Re: Charging issue....
Post by: hootmon on June 08, 2012, 04:43:02 PM
Got the bike 90% done last night, and it's charging!!!
I few more odds and ends tonight, and should be back on the road...
Title: Re: Charging issue....
Post by: roboto65 on June 08, 2012, 05:31:29 PM
Just in time for MOOTMag  :cool: :cool:
Title: Re: Charging issue....
Post by: hootmon on June 08, 2012, 07:49:19 PM
Quote from: roboto65 on June 08, 2012, 05:31:29 PM
Just in time for MOOTMag  :cool: :cool:
This is my wife's VT Sabre...
Title: Re: Charging issue....
Post by: TLRam1 on June 09, 2012, 01:05:59 AM
So she can come with you.  :cool:
Title: Re: Charging issue....
Post by: rjb/AKA Bob Barram on June 09, 2012, 11:22:18 AM
Good Ole Terry, always the optimist....
Title: Re: Charging issue....
Post by: hootmon on June 09, 2012, 11:22:43 AM
Good news.. bike is back together and charging..
Bad news.. bike is breaking up like the rev limiter is kicking in when I accelerate hard ..
Hummm..  :-x
Title: Re: Charging issue....
Post by: hootmon on June 09, 2012, 01:27:31 PM
Found the issue...
This bikes air intake is under the seat
The regulator/Stator connectors are just in front of the intake.
There is a large rubber boot that you place over the connectors.
The boot fell off and was laying on top of the intake, starving the motor under hard acceleration.
I zip tied the boot on and all is well...