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Title: Wanna pool together on some Dyna Beads?
Post by: snoopy on July 26, 2012, 11:42:27 PM
I think my tires have about had it (I'll post pictures later to get your opinions).  I have already purchased some angled Solid Billet Tire Valves from motorcycleanchor.com and will be upgrading the rear to a 180/70 so I will be purchasing a BSR-3 brakestay rod from cycle-istic.com after Dobie get's back from his fun.

While I'm at it I want to install Dyna Beads and was wondering if there are enough of you out there who'd want to pool together so we can purchase a larger bundle to lower the per-ounce price.  Anybody interested in Dyna Beads?
Title: Re: Wanna pool together on some Dyna Beads?
Post by: hootmon on July 27, 2012, 05:44:20 AM
Get with Allen.. He knows where to buy "generic" Dyna beads at a good price..
Title: Re: Wanna pool together on some Dyna Beads?
Post by: snoopy on July 27, 2012, 09:44:14 PM
These are from 10 days ago.  Can you tell from them if they need to be replaced?

(http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/p571/snoopy-the-great/DSCN3469.jpg)
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Title: Re: Wanna pool together on some Dyna Beads?
Post by: roboto65 on July 27, 2012, 10:01:49 PM
Just from the pics yeah they need to be replaced.
Title: Re: Wanna pool together on some Dyna Beads?
Post by: snoopy on July 27, 2012, 10:02:43 PM
Quote from: roboto65 on July 27, 2012, 10:01:49 PM
Just from the pics yeah they need to be replaced.

Yeah, that's what I thought.  So do you have a hookup on beads Allen?
Title: Re: Wanna pool together on some Dyna Beads?
Post by: roboto65 on July 27, 2012, 10:15:23 PM
Yeah http://www.quackco.com/yttriumstabilizedzirconia.html  you need the 0.8 to 1.0 mm was about 70 ish for about 5 lbs thats how I bought them.
Title: Re: Wanna pool together on some Dyna Beads?
Post by: snoopy on July 27, 2012, 11:03:11 PM
Ok, keep your clothes on everybody, but does anybody want some beads!
:eek:
Title: Re: Wanna pool together on some Dyna Beads?
Post by: lragan on July 28, 2012, 10:46:26 AM
The tires should have "wear indicators" -- small, thin, ridges in the grooves of the tires.  When the surface of the tire wears down even with the tops of the indicators, it is time to replace. 

From the pics, it is pretty clear the rear tire has reached this point and then some.  I can't really tell about the front one.

If there is any doubt, replace the front tire, too.  A rear tire going flat is annoying, but much easier than a front one to control to a safe stop.
Title: Re: Wanna pool together on some Dyna Beads?
Post by: snoopy on July 28, 2012, 11:03:38 AM
Quote from: lragan on July 28, 2012, 10:46:26 AM
The tires should have "wear indicators" -- small, thin, ridges in the grooves of the tires.  When the surface of the tire wears down even with the tops of the indicators, it is time to replace. 

From the pics, it is pretty clear the rear tire has reached this point and then some.  I can't really tell about the front one.

If there is any doubt, replace the front tire, too.  A rear tire going flat is annoying, but much easier than a front one to control to a safe stop.

Thanks Lawrence.  I do plan on replacing both.  Does anybody around DFW have the stuff to mount a motorcycle tire?
Title: Re: Wanna pool together on some Dyna Beads?
Post by: screamin meme on July 28, 2012, 03:59:34 PM
Just get on you tube and look for "How to change motorcycle tires" I did mine in my garage.  :-P
Title: Re: Wanna pool together on some Dyna Beads?
Post by: roboto65 on July 28, 2012, 04:48:18 PM
Nope but I do down in Conroe  :lol: if ya feel like a road trip heck Jeff is bringing MY new bike to me when I get off the boat that weekend you could come on down and we could do some wrenching and tire changing. Heck I have to do mine also but plan on the darkside change this time.
That would be the weekend of Aug 11th pretty sure thats when Jeff is coming down.
Title: Re: Wanna pool together on some Dyna Beads?
Post by: snoopy on July 28, 2012, 07:20:55 PM
Quote from: roboto65 on July 28, 2012, 04:48:18 PM
Nope but I do down in Conroe  :lol: if ya feel like a road trip heck Jeff is bringing MY new bike to me when I get off the boat that weekend you could come on down and we could do some wrenching and tire changing. Heck I have to do mine also but plan on the darkside change this time.
That would be the weekend of Aug 11th pretty sure thats when Jeff is coming down.

That sounds like a great idea.  I'll try to get my crap together and plan to head on down that weekend.
Title: Re: Wanna pool together on some Dyna Beads?
Post by: snoopy on July 28, 2012, 08:29:28 PM
So I'm guessing nobody is interested in some tire beads?
Title: Re: Wanna pool together on some Dyna Beads?
Post by: roboto65 on July 28, 2012, 09:24:54 PM
Like I said they are about 70 bucks for what they sell I will split the cost with you if you want to buy them just call them and they will take care of you. Like I said I will split it with you as I could use them again.
Title: Re: Wanna pool together on some Dyna Beads?
Post by: snoopy on July 28, 2012, 09:49:19 PM
Quote from: roboto65 on July 28, 2012, 09:24:54 PM
Like I said they are about 70 bucks for what they sell I will split the cost with you if you want to buy them just call them and they will take care of you. Like I said I will split it with you as I could use them again.

Yup, I've got an email into them already, and may follow up on Monday by phone.  I'm thinking of putting them in my truck too, but according to the site for Dyna Beads, they don't recommend them for my tire size.
Title: Re: Wanna pool together on some Dyna Beads?
Post by: roboto65 on July 28, 2012, 10:05:47 PM
Yeah always called them but bring them with and I will take half off your hands even have a scale for measuring.
Title: Re: Wanna pool together on some Dyna Beads?
Post by: snoopy on July 31, 2012, 10:39:42 PM
So I got a response from Quackenbush Co., Inc.  A 5 lb sample of their QBZ-58A 0.8 mm (http://www.quackco.com/qbzirc.htm) is $60 and shipping to my place is $10.60, so you were about dead on Allen.  To put them in my bike and my truck will take all but 3 oz of that "sample", so I won't have any extras to bring down to Houston (if I'm able to make it).

I may have mentioned it in another post, or maybe just privately to a few people, but I *may* not even be able to come down.  I've applied to lease two houses closer to where I work, and should hear back from them tomorrow.  If I'm accepted for one of the houses then money's tight and I'll have to cancel the upgrades to the Magna and the trip down to Conroe, but if I'm not accepted then I stay where I'm at and don't have to shell out the extra first and last months rent right now.

EDIT:  The Yttrium Stabilized Zirconia Beads (YTZ -0.8mm) (http://www.quackco.com/yttriumstabilizedzirconia.html) that Allen mentioned are a different offering by Quakenbush Co, which is over 4.5 times the price.
Title: Re: Wanna pool together on some Dyna Beads?
Post by: roboto65 on July 31, 2012, 11:25:47 PM
Well not to burst your bubble but if you use all those beads in just your truck and bike you have done some way off measuring
LOL

When I did our truck we put 5oz in each tire thats 20 then your bike should use 3 oz in the rear and 2 or so in the front so you are looking at 25 oz for your truck and bike which should leave you about 55 oz left over if my math is correct LOL
Title: Re: Wanna pool together on some Dyna Beads?
Post by: snoopy on July 31, 2012, 11:41:55 PM
Quote from: roboto65 on July 31, 2012, 11:25:47 PM
When I did our truck we put 5oz in each tire thats 20 then your bike should use 3 oz in the rear and 2 or so in the front so you are looking at 25 oz for your truck and bike which should leave you about 55 oz left over if my math is correct LOL

My truck has 275/60/20 tires, which aren't on Innovative Balancing's charts, plus since it's a lower profile tire they are suggesting that I add 6 oz per tire over the norm, so I was going to put about 16 oz in per tire.  Even with that math, plus 5 oz for the Magna, that leaves 11 oz left.  I guess I was estimating even more for the truck tires in my previous calculation.  I'll probably take out the beads for the Magna and split up the rest for the truck tires, just to be safe (since I'm not on their charts).  I would hate to put all of that effort into getting the beads in my truck tires, just to have them wobble later, so I'll throw all I have left into them.
Title: Re: Wanna pool together on some Dyna Beads?
Post by: roboto65 on August 01, 2012, 07:52:24 AM
1 Pound of beads per tire WOW Ok
Title: Re: Wanna pool together on some Dyna Beads?
Post by: Smoked U on August 13, 2012, 03:20:10 PM
Can you not have someone spin balance the unweighted tires to figure out how much weight is needed and then pour the required amount of dynabeads through the valve stem?

Brandon, you need to start leaning over more on your bike so you can use some of the other tread on the tire :lol:
Title: Re: Wanna pool together on some Dyna Beads?
Post by: Slydynbye on August 27, 2012, 03:31:59 PM
How many of these do I need to swallow to become a more balanced individual?   :grin:
Title: Re: Wanna pool together on some Dyna Beads?
Post by: Smoked U on August 27, 2012, 11:21:36 PM
Quote from: Slydynbye on August 27, 2012, 03:31:59 PM
How many of these do I need to swallow to become a more balanced individual?   :grin:

I think you got to put them in from the other end.
Title: Re: Wanna pool together on some Dyna Beads?
Post by: womp126 on September 06, 2012, 04:16:55 PM
So, how did the beads work out Brandon?
Title: Re: Wanna pool together on some Dyna Beads?
Post by: magnagregcan on September 11, 2012, 11:38:51 AM
to SmokedU - that's where they'll end up, eventually.
Title: Re: Wanna pool together on some Dyna Beads?
Post by: snoopy on September 13, 2012, 11:27:49 AM
Quote from: womp126 on September 06, 2012, 04:16:55 PM
So, how did the beads work out Brandon?

Basically, my timing was thrown off a paycheck because my other dog got HGE also, on Memorial day, so my cash reserves were wiped out after having to take her to a 24x7 emergency animal hospital.

So I haven't been able to install them yet.  I wanted to get the larger, wider rear tire, so I had to find a CycleistiC brakestay rod.  Got that now.  Now I just have to get that new tire, the Dynabead installation bottle, and a valve stem remover.
Title: Re: Wanna pool together on some Dyna Beads?
Post by: womp126 on September 18, 2012, 03:58:48 PM
Poor pooch.  Sounds like a wrenching session in the making.
Title: Re: Wanna pool together on some Dyna Beads?
Post by: snoopy on September 24, 2012, 06:35:54 PM
A wrenching session would be ideal.  I've now accumulated a list of stuff I need to do to my Magna ...

1) install handlebar risers
2) install passenger pegs
3) install offset brakestay
4) install dyna-like beads in my tires
5) install new tires
6) and I'm sure I could use an oil change (not certain when the last one was)
7) redo the fork seals (Did this the last wrenching session but they are bad again)

I don't have the tools and know-how to mount the tires and I would *definitely* need help with the fork seals.  I don't know what went wrong with them since they were worked on very recently at the last wrenching session at Greg's place.  The passenger pegs and brakestay should be simple, but I'm weary to just do the handlebar risers myself.  I would suspect that there could be alignment issues if I don't get it back "just right".