I have a third generation Magna that is badly in need of a new chain and sprockets. I know now thanks to Gloveberg that stock front is 16 tooth, and rear is 40. Now comes my next question. Does any one have any suggestions as to what type of sprockets to buy and where to buy them. Chain as well for a matter of fact, I know there are about 3 different types of chains but have no clue where to buy them, or the advantages each has over the other. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
I've heard great things about the X-ring chains. Bam Bam also swears by them. This page also makes for an interesting read:
http://www.quality-cycle.com/truth_about_motorcycle_chains.htm
I don't know much about different sprockets. Let me know what you find out.
I went with the stock sprockets, bought them from Suzuki/Honda but went with the generic brand that was cheaper. I bought my chain from cycle gear and again went with what the book recommened for the Magna. I think I got the X-ring.
All I know about the sprocket differences is one gives you more jump speed while the other give better highway mileage.
Devon, we talked about meeting tonight for the sprocket tool, is that still on? Call me at 972-358-7079.
Bob
Devon, I think the stock sprocket setup of 16/40 is probably the best all around. I've debated going to the larger one to improve highway mileage but don't really want to lose my low end power, and vice versa. Since you'll soon be commuting to UT you probably don't want to go with the smaller sprocket because it will kill your mileage.
Ok so I read that article and learned alot. Although they advertise quite a bit in there, the explanations of chain differences and how to properly lube chains was great. It would seem that X-ring chains are a better sealed chain, but any chain sealed or not, will last as long as another, if it is lubed properply. Sealed chains (O-ring/X-Ring) need not be lubed as often as non-seaed chains. Now I just need to go look and find out what the required Tensile strength is for the third gen.
No Bob, unfortunately since I don't have a chain or new sprockets yet there's no need to come over. But If I get my chains and sprockets in before the weekend, would you willing to do it on saturday or sunday?
Quote from: DevgusNow I just need to go look and find out what the required Tensile strength is for the third gen.
Devin, I wouldn't worry about the tensile strength because I've been unable to find that. If you go with an RK X-Ring chain that is made for the bike then you should be fine. You just need to look up the Magna and find out what kind of chain they specify. It's usually in the number of links and something else... I think the width of the lengths. But any shop worth a dang or even a dealer for that matter should be able to cross-reference a stock Magna chain with an X-Ring chain equivalent.
The last time I checked, RK chains were a lot cheaper than the D.I.D. chains and as you saw in that article, that guy thinks they're just as good.
Dev,
Replaced my sprockets and chain a couple of months ago. Went with Sprocket Specialists. Glover recommended them and they were pretty helpful (I called in my order to make sure I got the right stuff and to ask the difference in the sprockets) . I went with the aluminum rear and regular steel front. Got the RK X ring chain. Put about 2000 miles and it has needed no adjustment since installation. Cost me around 200 bucks. I think I had to remove one link in the chain because they come with 120 links and stock is 118. Here is their web site, click on catalog search and look for Magna. Hope this helps.
Was that $200 for the whole switch of sprockets and chain. Or just the chain? I was hoping to find a chain for about $100 and sprockets for maybe another $100, but I guess you get what you pay for.
The $200 was for both sprockets and the chain. I put them on myself. You should be able to find what you want there. Again check out their site they have all the prices. And you can give them a call if you have any questions.
Hey, Dan. What are the advantages of using a steel sprocket on the front and aluminum on the rear? I would think the steel would last longer so you'd want to use it in both places.
Yes you would unless you were a tightwad like me. The steel sprocket for the rear was considerably more expensive, and the person I talked to said the aluminum sprocket would give excellent service. They only make a steel for the front, so that is why I went that way.
Well that sounds more like it for me. I think I'm going to look into the dave Dodge sprockets, and stick with a stock configuration 16/40. I Guess I'll have to call him to order them.
Dev, I have replaced my sprockets 3 times (with every chain) and each time the rear costs around $35 and the front around $20 so you can expect to pay around that. I have been dealing with Dennis Kirk lately and their prices and shipping to me are top notch plus when you order they show exactly what they have on hand to ship so you instantly know what's in stock. Personally I would reccomend them highly.
For chains, really any good quality (DID, EK, RK, etc.) o-ring or x-ring chain will give you good service. Remember, the main key to chain maintenance is keeping the chain from rusting, not lubing it until it drips. The o-rings take care of the roller lubricants so your main concern is just keeping the links clean and as rust free as possible.
I bought an RK X-ring chain on eBay for $70 the last time I replaced it which saved meabout $40-50 :
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4612588119&category=35600
You may not do eBay however. The chain was brand new and the seller is a national company (Motorcycle Accessories Warehouse)
Another thing to consider if you haven't is you will need a chain breaker and riveting tool to install the new chain. If you or Greg doesn not own one then you will need to buy one or take the bike to a shop to have it done.
Hope this helps :wink:
Jimmy
That chain looks like a great deal I think I'm going to get it. As for the tool, Bob Barram has been gracious enough to help me install my new chain with the chain splitter he bought. All I have to do is get the bike and chain to him.