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Title: trouble putting on the front wheel
Post by: ThomasMagna on June 09, 2006, 07:53:48 PM
I finally got around to taking off the front wheel and getting the new tire on. Now that I have the wheel on, I can't seem to center it correctly. I either can't or don't know where or how to check the clearence either.

I thought I had in on okay, and took it for a ride. I stopped at the end of the road using just the rear break and felt the breaks in front. Cool. I didn't hear anything either taking off easy. When I got back I jacked the front end up and spun the wheel. It is making a light grinding noise on the left side. I torqued all the bolts to spec before the ride.

Thanks for any help coming. I have a little time to ride and would like to hit the VJMC gathering in Hickory Corners.
Title: trouble putting on the front wheel
Post by: roboto65 on June 09, 2006, 08:37:38 PM
Not to knock anything you did but did you make sure you put the spacers back on the right side they are two differnt sizes and only go on one way well they can go on the other way but your wheel will be off center!!
Title: trouble putting on the front wheel
Post by: ThomasMagna on June 09, 2006, 08:43:02 PM
You  aren't stepping on my toes at all, Allen. I can't say for sure that I did, but I think that I did. I only have one spacer. Do you mean that one end is larger. Maybe I lost something. I've got to go look.

Thanks.
Title: trouble putting on the front wheel
Post by: roboto65 on June 09, 2006, 08:51:32 PM
I am sorry there is only one well on the 3rd gens but make sure to put a light coat of grease on the shaft and slide and seat it all the way over then thread the bolt on the other side before you tighten it tighten the pinch bolts then the bolt in the shaft
Title: trouble putting on the front wheel
Post by: roboto65 on June 09, 2006, 08:53:35 PM
this is a third gen schematic

http://www.ronayers.com/fiche/200_0322/front_wheel/front_wheel.cfm?man=ho&groupid=11160&parent=11100
Title: trouble putting on the front wheel
Post by: ThomasMagna on June 09, 2006, 09:14:10 PM
Thanks Again. I have the first gen. I just looked at the manual again and it looks as though there is only one spacer for me. It says something about moving the the left hand fork leg but I haven't figured that out either.

I am gonna take it down in the morning and get a fresh start...after looking at the forum again.
Title: trouble putting on the front wheel
Post by: silveradocowboy on June 09, 2006, 09:58:38 PM
You are correct, the first gen has only one spacer. I don't have much to add to what Allen has said. The movement of the fork the manual refers to is probably aligning the speedometer gearbox properly with the tab on the fork leg in front of the gearbox. Make sure the tabs on the wheel and gearbox do not sit on top of each other(easy to tell because the gearbox won't seat properly) and that the spacer is on the opposite side of the wheel from the gearbox.

P.S. Don't put the spacer on upside down............ J/K
Title: trouble putting on the front wheel
Post by: ThomasMagna on June 10, 2006, 06:44:54 AM
Jeff, I must be okay on the tabs on the speedo. I am not sure about the tang on the speedo sleeve. I looked at it before taking off the wheel, and put it back like it was. It wasn't where I thought it should be. I tried putting like I thought and it would't fit.

I quote the manual: ...loosen the nuts on the right hand axle holder and move the left fork leg in or out until desired clearence is obtained.

I am unclear about that. I haven't a clue about the right hand axel bolts. It isn't the pinch bolt since that is only finger tight at that point of reinstallation.

Also, are you pulling my leg about not putting the spacer in up side down? It doesn't look as though it would matter. I think I put it back the same way. I line up my parts the way I take them off.

Well, slept in til 7 this morning and got to get out to the morning chores.

Thanks. I'll keep checking here and will keep you all posted on what I thought would be pretty easy.

Oh, I can't fit a feeler guage anywhere on the pads. Not sure if I just don't know where to stick it. I put a piece of wood between the right break pads but not the left. If some one pulled the break handle, would it screw things up? I don't think any one did, but I wasn't by the bike all the time. The kids next door weren't around. A friend was and he is interested in my bike and he was here. I know he sometimes sits on it and makes the vroom vroom sounds. Wish he'd just get one.
Title: trouble putting on the front wheel
Post by: roboto65 on June 10, 2006, 07:10:26 AM
You would not have a camera so we could see the way everything is on could you hmmmmmmmmm  don't understand the fork thing thats kinda weird. So if I am getting this properly the wheel spins fine but the caliper or shoes are off center does the caliper bolt to the fork leg....
I really need to study up on all the magnas first and seconds......
Title: trouble putting on the front wheel
Post by: ThomasMagna on June 10, 2006, 07:29:32 AM
Allen,

I do have a camera and I'll dig it out now and go take a pic or two. I am not too good at pictures. I'll post them if they are any good.
Title: trouble putting on the front wheel
Post by: ThomasMagna on June 10, 2006, 10:26:08 AM
Here are a few pics. A couple close ups and one of the wheel.

I had some errands to run and am gonna go try it again.

Let me know if you can tell anything from the pics
Title: trouble putting on the front wheel
Post by: roboto65 on June 10, 2006, 10:41:46 AM
Ok now mind you I don't have a 1st gen but the area I have circled does that flange maybe go the other way and seat or fit into the bearing if so that would give you that much extra metal and offset the whole thing try if that flange is part of the spacer I would turn it around and see if it fits in the bearing I am betting that it does but OH how I have been wrong in the past hehehehelololololololo
Title: trouble putting on the front wheel
Post by: ThomasMagna on June 10, 2006, 12:23:13 PM
Allen,

I will try that, and think I may just have tried. I took off and put on the wheel three times since my last post. I really need the wheel to move in that direction to center the thing.

I don't know if this will work, but I had a friend tighten the axle pinch bolt as I pull on the wheel to get it to flush up. Not sure if that is the way it is done or if the pinch bolt will hold it there.

Got to do some work and then I'll take it for a ride. I check things out as I ride (when stopped) and again when I get home.

I think I figgured the feeler gauge thing out. It isn't supposed to go beteen the pads, just the side of the calipers. Any comments on that?

I hope all is well this time around. Even if it is, I am compulsive enough to check it every day for a month before I will feel okay with it.

Thanks

PS Are you on the boat now, and how many miles have you logged on deck?
Title: trouble putting on the front wheel
Post by: roboto65 on June 10, 2006, 12:41:49 PM
Yep on the boat and as far as deck time I have been doing this for 16years and 6 of it I have been in the wheelhouse so 10 years of decktime tankering and decking Keep it up I know you will find out what is going on.....
Title: trouble putting on the front wheel
Post by: ThomasMagna on June 10, 2006, 01:52:08 PM
Thanks Allen,

I just got back from the test ride. I still haven't noticed anything in the riding. She rides great. Just put in new plugs too and that gave her a little more zip it seemed to me.

As before, I checked the disks after riding a little, stopped with rear break only. Nothing warm. I haven't looked to see if the gap has returned. It never went totally away but was better.

Thanks for the vote of confidence and encouragement.
Title: trouble putting on the front wheel
Post by: Greg Cothern on June 10, 2006, 02:34:27 PM
Tighten the axle bolt down then the pinch bolts.
Title: trouble putting on the front wheel
Post by: ThomasMagna on June 10, 2006, 04:38:53 PM
Greg, I did like the manual said. Put in the axle and tighten to torque specs then put the pinch bolt in finger tight. I pulled the wheel and held it while a friend torqued the pinch bolt down. I just did 20 or so miles and have noticed nothing. It may be okay and I just don't want to believe it.

Thanks.
Title: trouble putting on the front wheel
Post by: Anonymous on August 03, 2006, 02:34:52 PM
Sick.