Magna Dark Side

Started by Len Averyt, October 12, 2008, 08:45:00 PM

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Curtis_Valk

Quote from: Len Averyt on October 15, 2008, 08:40:21 PM
:-P :-P HAPPY HAPPY JOY JOY  :-P :-P
The Magna Dark Side Project is a success
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Reinstalled the tire on the bike set tire at 25PSI rode around. too soft.
32 just right :cool:
It has a lot smoother street ride so far and grips really good. I rev ed her to close to red line and gave the clutch hell and on asphalt road it surgged the bike forward and no peel out.

AWESOME!!! Glad to hear the good news.  Yes, the car tire smooths out the high frequency bumps quite well.  I'll have to get up there for a test ride soon!

Curtis
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Magnum Magna

Quote from: Len Averyt on October 15, 2008, 08:40:21 PM
  I rev ed her to close to red line and gave the clutch hell and on asphalt road it surgged the bike forward and no peel out.

Two things.
(1) Did you say from a stop you took off from near redline?
(2) Balancing, will you be using the ceramic balls, you have a balancing set up and weights, or will you be take it to a shop and have them balance it?

Looks Good
Robert
Better to be exploited then not exploited.
07 Ultra, 07 Boulevard w/ sidecar (2+2=4)

Matthew 13:19 NT ... This is the seed sown along the path

Len Averyt

Quote from: Magnum Magna on October 15, 2008, 10:06:00 PM
Two things.
(1) Did you say from a stop you took off from near redline?
(2) Balancing, will you be using the ceramic balls, you have a balancing set up and weights, or will you be take it to a shop and have them balance it?
Yep near red line 8k> i wasn't paying real close attention was hang-in on :D
I did the bubba balance.
I noticed when I was polishing the rim that it always would turn where the wheel weight was at the lowest point.
Once the tire was on,  I took the wheel weight off and spun the tire and rim.
When the tire finished moving, trying more than once to verify heavy side, I placed the weight opposite the heavy side.
Now it stops randomly. So must be close. I'll know more when I get it out on the open road a bit.
I may take it and have it pro done.
Once you go dark you dont want to park!
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Curtis_Valk

#33
QuoteNow it stops randomly. So must be close. I'll know more when I get it out on the open road a bit.
I may take it and have it pro done.

I did the bubba balance on my first car tire.  I got lucky and it stopped randomly with all of the weights off.  I think if it stops randomly, you should be good.  I noticed the red balance dot in your pictures.  I can't remember which but that dot marks either the light side of the tire or the heavy side.  Depending on which, you usually either put it opposite the valve stem or next to it for best balance.  Of course since you are past that point I wouldn't worry about it.  I just mentioned it for next time.

As an aside, that's the only thing I don't like about Avon tires........they don't give you a balance dot.  I have had Avons that took quite a bit of weight to balance out.

Curtis
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TLRam1

On M/C tires you line the Dot with the stem as the lightest part.
Terry

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Jester

can you say that in a way that someone who has never done it before might understand?

hootmon

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TLRam1

Quote from: Jester on October 17, 2008, 11:05:29 AM
can you say that in a way that someone who has never done it before might understand?

What part did you not understand, the Dot part?

There is a Dot on the sidewall of the tire which represents the lightest part of the tire. When mounting your tire you place the Dot inline with your valve stem as your valve stem adds weight to your rim.

So heavy part of your rim matched with the lightest part of your tire.
Terry

My mama always told me never put off till tomorrow people you can kill today.

Allen, TX.

74 GT750 - 75 GT380 – 01 Magna - 03 KX 250-01 – 04 WR 450 - 74 T500 Titan

Len Averyt

Well i got it almost 180 out i am noticing a bit of a wobble at 45mph but at highway speeds its smooth.
I think I now know what causes the rear tires to wear out quick.
Lose traction. it now seems with the car tire accelerating around a corner the bike responds quicker.
Once you go dark you dont want to park!
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Curtis_Valk

Quote from: Len Averyt on October 17, 2008, 07:04:23 PM
Well i got it almost 180 out i am noticing a bit of a wobble at 45mph but at highway speeds its smooth.
I think I now know what causes the rear tires to wear out quick.
Lose traction. it now seems with the car tire accelerating around a corner the bike responds quicker.

Dump some Dyna-beads in there and it will be smooth as glass.

Curtis
Rowlett, TX MOOT #315 VRCC #26023
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No need for a reason other than the journey.

Len Averyt

If they cant fit through the valve stem, it AIN'T happin in. I'm not breaking it off the rim :shock:.
NO NO NO. Not going to do it. Wouldn't be prudent. :lol:

No rides this weekend? dang it.... Grrr want to play with my new toy.
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Curtis_Valk

Yeah, the Dyna-beads go in through the stem you just have to remove the core.  http://www.innovativebalancing.com/  I've got two ounces ready to go here at the house.  If you're in this part of town next week give me a call and we can put them in for ya.

No rides this weekend, I have family reunion in Corsicana.

Curtis
Rowlett, TX MOOT #315 VRCC #26023
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No need for a reason other than the journey.

Magnum Magna

All the brake work, made me start thinking.  How is the hard breaking.  I would think the tire is a little heavier and locking the tire up could be harder but in turn that could work like anti-lock brakes and stop you quicker.  :lol:
Robert
Better to be exploited then not exploited.
07 Ultra, 07 Boulevard w/ sidecar (2+2=4)

Matthew 13:19 NT ... This is the seed sown along the path

hootmon

#43
Yeah Len;
   How are things going with the tire... Give us some more details..
What would you do different?? Uni-directional tire as suggested?
Does the size you install seem to be the right choice?
etc..
"accidents aren't predictable, don't be a DUMBASS" - MD Dan

Len Averyt

Quote from: Magnum Magna on October 19, 2008, 11:53:45 PM
All the brake work, made me start thinking.  How is the hard breaking.  I would think the tire is a little heavier and locking the tire up could be harder but in turn that could work like anti-lock brakes and stop you quicker.  :lol:

Well i don't know about stopping quicker. One thing is for sure, it howls like a beat dog when it does lock up :shock: not the quiet skidding sound before like before.
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