Security For Your Bike

Started by tmds3, September 04, 2009, 10:26:59 PM

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tmds3

Was wondering what everyone has, mine is stock,buddy has an alarm and LoJack on his 08 Ninja 650. I was thinking about adding an alarm and use the steering lock.

Thoughts?

hootmon

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Quote from: tmds3 on September 04, 2009, 10:26:59 PM
Was wondering what everyone has, mine is stock,buddy has an alarm and LoJack on his 08 Ninja 650. I was thinking about adding an alarm and use the steering lock.

Thoughts?

Most security is for honest thieves.. Folk locks, etc..
Most bikes are stolen for parts and not for the bike itself.
A couple of guys can pick up a bike and throw it in a pick-up truck unless it is well chained, and then a blow torch will probably take care of that..
Where you park it (just ask Unlucky Dan!), and what type of bike has a lot to do with it.. IF they want it, there are limited things you can do to prevent them from getting it, if they want it bad enough..
I know Terry sold a Magna that got stolen then recovered, but I would not think that Magna's are NOT very high on most thieves lists... If spending lots of money gives you piece of mind, then it may be worth it.. If you live in a bad area, Do what you can to protect your property..

I park my bike in a garage, so it is semi-safe.. I have been know to bring a cable lock when traveling, but I am not under the delusion that it makes that much difference.. I have used my fork lock a few times, (no delusions)..

I'm not sure I helped.. If I had a $35K Big Dog, and lived in a bad neighborhood, I might invest in a Lo-Jack (A good product), but then again, if I could truly afford a $35K bike, I probably shouldn't be living in a bad neighborhood..  Should I really invest in a $300-500 alarm system on a $3500 bike?? or should I just up my insurance a little, to cover it IF it does get stolen??

I'm not sure any of this helps.. just some ramblings..
"accidents aren't predictable, don't be a DUMBASS" - MD Dan

Chokse

I have a Scorpio alarm system on mine and I love it.  It has an optional perimeter sensor that works very well.  You can adjust its sensitivity from about one foot out to about 10 feet.  If someone walks up to your bike, the alarm starts chirping, and if the person hasn't moved away in a few seconds, the alarm goes off.  You can also get an optional battery pack (in case the thieves try to cut the main battery cable) and a kill switch that will kill the engine via the remote (in case you are car (bike?) jacked).  The remote also has an RFID chip in it, so you don't even have to push the button to arm or disarm the alarm.  It senses if you are walking toward, away from, or just hovering around the bike.  If you are walking toward the bike, the alarm will disarm.  Walk away, and it automatically arms itself.  If you are just standing near the bike (maybe talking to someone), it stays at whatever setting it is currently on.  The remote also has an FM receiver and the alarm has an FM transmitter with antenna.  If the alarm is triggered, the remote picks up the FM signal and also sounds an alarm.  I live in a place with a lot of tall, cement buildings, so I probably get the worst reception possible.  However, I am still able to pick up the signal from about 500 feet away, even while inside a building.

I live in South Korea where it is illegal for insurance companies to offer full coverage to motorcycles.  In fact, the only insurance the Korean government allows for motorcycles only covers damage caused by the motorcycle.  If my bike is stolen, I get nothing.  If I am in an accident and it is my fault, the insurance pays the other person, but not me.  I can only get insurance money if the accident is not my fault.  The system really sucks, but so does this country's government.  What can you do? 

So, since insurance won't protect me, I've had to protect myself, and this alarm has done a very good job.  Scares the crap out of the locals when they get too curious and try to start touching my bike while it is parked.  They don't do it twice!
1995 Super Duper Magna with VFR engine and CBR wheels and brakes. Fast to go and fast to stop!

MarylandMagnav45

1) Have a big ugly dent on your gas tank

2) Have no speedometer/odometer

Worry free, no one is going to steal my magna

:)

BudMan

I leave a 12 Ga shell visable in the open ditty bag between my handlebars on the V-65 and the Valk.  (I store the Harley downtown in a secure storage facility and never let it out of my sight when I ride it somewhere.)
One of the shells I use I found on the ground in a parking lot after an obvious outlaw pulled out from next to where I was parked.  It gave me an odd feeling to see it, and I thought I would pass the feeling along.  :shock:
Buddy
Tecumseh OK
MOOT# 263
VRCC # 30158
'76 XL-350 (Single)
'48 EL Harley (V Twin)
'84 V-65 Magna (V-4) '99 Valkyrie IS (Flat-6)

MarylandMagnav45

Quote from: BudMan on September 05, 2009, 10:11:00 AM
I leave a 12 Ga shell visable in the open ditty bag between my handlebars on the V-65 and the Valk.  (I store the Harley downtown in a secure storage facility and never let it out of my sight when I ride it somewhere.)
One of the shells I use I found on the ground in a parking lot after an obvious outlaw pulled out from next to where I was parked.  It gave me an odd feeling to see it, and I thought I would pass the feeling along.  :shock:

totally off topic...

I've ridden a vtwin harley, and I've ridden a v4 magna.

Never ridden a valk or a single?

That single must be fun?

I heard Suzuki Savage owners love the sound/feel of the one single moving up and down lol.

BudMan

(Further off topic)
QuoteNever ridden a valk or a single?

That single must be fun?
The 350 was Honda's largest single (I think) and the low end power is really fun.  You can stand 3 feet behind the bike and feel the exhaust every time the engine hits even though it is 33 years old.
How is it riding the Valk? Well if you think of a Cadillac with twice the normal power, the top and doors removed, and the air conditioner turned off you'd just about have it. :lol:
Buddy
Tecumseh OK
MOOT# 263
VRCC # 30158
'76 XL-350 (Single)
'48 EL Harley (V Twin)
'84 V-65 Magna (V-4) '99 Valkyrie IS (Flat-6)

Magnum Magna

I use the alarm that Terry sale. Gorilla 2-Way Paging System Cycle Alarm 7017
I like that it has a pager that will alert me in the building at work.
I saw a video on you tube the first thing they do is test or break the fork locks.  Testing the fork lock will set off the alarm. I also use a cable lock if I will not be close.

http://www.cli-maxridinggear.com/servlet/StoreFront

Like it has been said if someone wants it they will get it.
Robert
Better to be exploited then not exploited.
07 Ultra, 07 Boulevard w/ sidecar (2+2=4)

Matthew 13:19 NT ... This is the seed sown along the path

Chad in Michigan

Quote from: BudMan on September 05, 2009, 05:46:00 PM
(Further off topic)
QuoteNever ridden a valk or a single?

That single must be fun?
The 350 was Honda's largest single (I think) and the low end power is really fun.  You can stand 3 feet behind the bike and feel the exhaust every time the engine hits even though it is 33 years old.
How is it riding the Valk? Well if you think of a Cadillac with twice the normal power, the top and doors removed, and the air conditioner turned off you'd just about have it. :lol:

My buddy told me in the '80's he had a Honda Ascot with a single cyl and it was like a 500 i think he said. I've only been able to find them in a v twin 500 though.
Chad Schloss

Perry, Michigan

tmds3

O.K.here is the reason I ask. Possibly next summer we are going to trailer the bike to Colorado to ride the Rockies and worried more about the bike sitting on the trailer in the hotel parking lots.

lragan

Four of us spent a week riding in Colorado in July.  We had two 3rd Gen Magnas, a Valk and new Harley that sold for >$40K.  The Harley has an alarm system, the rest of us just used the standard ignition and fork locks.  We left the bikes parked in motel lots every night but one, when they were at my sister's place.  There is no evidence that anyone even touched them.

No saying it is always safe, but unless you have a rare or expensive bike, I wouldn't sweat it. 
Lawrence
'96 Blue Austin TX
Ride to Live, Live to Ride longer Wear a Helmet

Brad Badgett

There is one thing that the 1%ers have given us avg. joe cycle riders- a 'reputation'- don't mess with me, or my bike!  When I pull into a parking lot anywhere, Wallyworld, gas station,etc.,  every one walks clear of the Magna, except another rider, who usually chats a bit.  That reputation is the best deterant ( I do use a cable lock in wuestionable areas).

Brad Badgett
OK Region

Chad in Michigan

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I've got a Digital Guard Dawg alarm sytem on my bike, which I've modified to be a keyless starting and a security system. It is a RFID system, in which you have to carry on your keychain this 'dawg tag' which is a RF transmitter and there is a responding relay on your bike which only activates when you are either near your bike or press the button on the remote. I have mine triggered to inturrupt the starter circuit, the circuit that powers the ECM and the circuit that powers the coils to fire the bike. The only way someone can take the bike is to walk off with it after breaking the steering lock or cart it away in a truck. I have it rigged to even sound the horn when the starter button is pressed when the 'dawg tag' is not present.  I have full coverage insurance and 4k in accy. coverage for just that occasion. (which most likely will never happen, because the magna is out of production and not that popular of a bike)
Chad Schloss

Perry, Michigan

MarylandMagnav45

Quote from: chadschloss78 on September 08, 2009, 11:25:40 AM
I've got a Digital Guard Dawg alarm sytem on my bike, which I've modified to be a keyless starting and a security system. It is a RFID system, in which you have to carry on your keychain this 'dawg tag' which is a RF transmitter and there is a responding relay on your bike which only activates when you are either near your bike or press the button on the remote. I have mine triggered to inturrupt the starter circuit, the circuit that powers the ECM and the circuit that powers the coils to fire the bike. The only way someone can take the bike is to walk off with it after breaking the steering lock or cart it away in a truck. I have it rigged to even sound the horn when the starter button is pressed when the 'dawg tag' is not present.  I have full coverage insurance and 4k in accy. coverage for just that occasion. (which most likely will never happen, because the magna is out of production and not that popular of a bike)

yeah, i mean, hey, if u want to spend money for protection of your bike, have a field day...

but, like u said in ur last sentence...

magna's aren't hot commodities...

so the chance of someone stealing one is nil since its not going to be worth the steal (parts wise).

then again,

if someone found a v65 magna with a CC Supercharger on it, then I'm sure that would be a very hot commodity to steal!  (since very few magna's ever had them)

link
http://users.metro2000.net/~cdc/magna/other%20features/articles%20and%20ads/supercharger/supercharger.htm

silveradocowboy

Quote from: chadschloss78 on September 08, 2009, 11:25:40 AM
if someone found a v65 magna with a CC Supercharger on it, then I'm sure that would be a very hot commodity to steal!  (since very few magna's ever had them)

link
http://users.metro2000.net/~cdc/magna/other%20features/articles%20and%20ads/supercharger/supercharger.htm

I had forgotten about the supercharger, thanks for the reminder. My favorite line is "and I suggest the CC Products kit for anyone who would like to take on super-bikes while pulling a trailer. " :lol:
Jeff
MOOT#103
'08 Goldwing