Clutch questions

[Len Averyt]

Should the springs on the clutch basket be loose?
should the oil pump chain be this loose?

[Len Averyt]

I just bought a barnet kevlar clutch kit.
just need to know about the basket and oilpump chain.

[Jigger]

The spring in the clutch will get loose over time due to wear. As far as the chain goes. You do need a little free play in it or it might bind. If I remember right. You should have 2-5 mm of free play.

[Len Averyt]

the chain seems to have more slack than that.

[TLRam1]

Trying to think back from the years I have worked on various components similar to this I think Len the springs being loose are fine, it has been so long I can't recall in perfect fashion. No comments needed from the Hoot Peanut gallery.

The chain I would look in the service manual and see what the specs are.

[tedkraus]

Just wondering how hard the kevlar plate clutch kit was? Mine is starting to slip a little under hard acceleration in 5th gear... And if you replaced it because it was worn and slipping or were you just upgrading?

[tedkraus]

Trying to think back from the years I have worked on various components similar to this I think Len the springs being loose are fine, it has been so long I can't recall in perfect fashion. No comments needed from the Hoot Peanut gallery.

The chain I would look in the service manual and see what the specs are.

I looked in the service manual and I could not find it in the specific magna 94-95 manual. Possibly in the common service manual? I am only wondering if some one finds this information because maybe it could be my culprit for noise on the left side of my bike.

[hootmon]

Ted... Not too bad of a job...
I found a V65 clutch replacement video either on yahoo video or Google video, I think yahoo, and it was close enough to give me the courage to go for it... There was one special trick in the video... When you go to loosen the main nut, if showed to take a pair if needle nose or hemostats (sp?) And place a penny between the gears so the motor doesn't spin.. the penny is soft enogh not to damage the gears.. I posted the link to the video on here at one time, so you may want to do a search...
I purchased a new gasket for the cover, but didn't need it, as it didn't get damaged in the removal process..
I swapped out to a heavy duty clutch (beefier) springs because my couch was slipping.. I was happy with the upgrade..

[roboto65]

I swapped out to a heavy duty clutch (beefier) springs because my couch was slipping

They make nonskid pads for that 

[hootmon]

*%$@ smartphone...

[tedkraus]

not to hijack the thread, but since I have very mild slipping and my bike still has original springs and plates, do you think it might be worth it to just replace the springs... I cannot imagine the plates are shot at only 15600 miles? Or should I just go for the whole deal I mean, I am trying to be as cheap as possible please keep that in mind....

[hootmon]

I had about 50K when I replaced the clutch... It's your call, but if I was opening it up, I'd go ahead and do it all... I don't think my kit was kevlar, but I could be wrong.. check around you might be able to get a non-kevlar kit with HD springs a little cheaper with new discs.. I think mine was EBC.

[TLRam1]

Trying to think back from the years I have worked on various components similar to this I think Len the springs being loose are fine, it has been so long I can't recall in perfect fashion. No comments needed from the Hoot Peanut gallery.

The chain I would look in the service manual and see what the specs are.

I looked in the service manual and I could not find it in the specific magna 94-95 manual. Possibly in the common service manual? I am only wondering if some one finds this information because maybe it could be my culprit for noise on the left side of my bike.

The chain Len is referring to is on the right side.

[TLRam1]

not to hijack the thread, but since I have very mild slipping and my bike still has original springs and plates, do you think it might be worth it to just replace the springs... I cannot imagine the plates are shot at only 15600 miles? Or should I just go for the whole deal I mean, I am trying to be as cheap as possible please keep that in mind....

It is possible to just add the heavier springs and all is well, as Hoot said, when I go in I would swap out at least the fibers and springs. I have changed just the springs on a bike but there were many circumstances for doing so and it worked fine. One such bike was probably my 01 Magna I purchased with 3500 miles and the clutch was not slipping but I changed the springs before taking the bike on the road as I was switching the engine cover anyway. 

If you just do the springs you will be purchasing a New replacement engine cover gasket also, you might be able to save the gasket if you have to go back in or may have to purchase a new gasket.

My train of thought is, "I go in to do it right once and not go back", that will probably set you back $150.00 in parts ifyou changed springs, fibers & metal discs, if money is tight I understand. 

As long as you do not burn or warp the metal discs you could forgo those on the low mileage bike you have. My 94 I purchased slipped at 14K miles and I did a complete clutch kit, never a problem since.

[Len Averyt]

I replaced the clutch.
Wasn't a bad job. Hardest part was getting the old gasket off. Grrr.
Second hard part was getting the large nut loose to pull and inspect the clutch basket.
Only trick to watch for was to make sure if you pull the clutch basket, which you don't have to to do the clutch, is to make sure to get the spring loaded gear on the crank shaft compressed properly. it takes the backlash out of the crankshaft to clutch gear connection.

My bike shifts and clutch's smooth now, no jitter or jerking.
Alas my vibration is still there at 4500 - 5000 rpm, a real pain. but im back on the road.