Anybody Else Have Problems Installing Cycle-istic Centerstand

Started by Sledge Hammer, October 12, 2008, 07:08:35 PM

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Sledge Hammer

I made my third and, for now, final attempt at installing the centerstand this afternoon. I would have to rank it as the most frustrating 2 hours I have spent on anything in recent memory, and now I think I understand why: the holes in the angle brackets don't align properly with the mounting holes on the frame tubes. To compound the problem, even without the centerstand in play, the supplied 13mm bolts did not want to start in the tube. The original bolts, by the way, have 12mm heads. Anybody else find this thing to be a PITA to install? As it is, all I have to show for my efforts is a readjusted rear brake and buggered up threads on the right rear mounting hole on the frame for the footpeg.  :x
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2002 Honda Interceptor

Chad in Michigan

I'd suggest giving Dobie  (cycleistic) a call, I'm sure he'd be happy to help you. I've only heard good things about the centerstand. I've been itching to get one myself one of these days. Good luck with it.
Chad Schloss

Perry, Michigan

Chokse

I had no problems installing mine.  It took about 15 minutes.  It helps to have another person so you can have someone holding it up on each side.
1995 Super Duper Magna with VFR engine and CBR wheels and brakes. Fast to go and fast to stop!

mainerider



Mine went on no problem. As recommended, call Dobie; you may have a slightly mis-aligned stand.  I'm sure he would send you another one.  Once on, you'll be very happy with it.

Sledge Hammer

My wife was doing her best to hold up the stand on one side while I tried to get it started from the other. We swapped sides when it became obvious that things weren't working out as planned. That was how I was finally able to prove to myself that the hole are misaligned (vertically, not horizontally). I don't know which is out of spec, but I know which one is easier to fix, if I can find my round files that is. I'll try to give Dobie a call tomorrow to see if he has any other :idea: s that don't include my having to bundle the stand up and ship it back to CA.
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1995 Honda Magna
2002 Honda Interceptor

Magnum Magna

It was a real pain installing.  My wife was in the house if I needed her but I was able to do it by myself in about an hour or two.  I don't remember any technique other then starting on one side, could not get the other side on so took the first side off then started fresh with the other side.  I was finely able to get it on.
Robert
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07 Ultra, 07 Boulevard w/ sidecar (2+2=4)

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BA

I also had some problem installing the stand by myself.  It appeared the holes in the stand were to low on the angle and once one side was installed you couldn't rotate the stand to the point where the holes lined up on the other side.  I very loosely installed one side, then inserted a screwdriver through one of the holes in the stand and frame to leverage it up and was able to start the bolt in the other hole.  Then I used my lift to apply additional vertical force to the bottom of the stand to get the other bolt started.  Took me a couple hours to work this out if I remember correctly.
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TLRam1

I had this issue and left the stand off. I had a pretty good dent in the down tube which could have caused my problem. So I can't attribute it to the stand, yet. When I try to install on the 01 Magna I will know more. 
Terry

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Sledge Hammer

Thanks to those of you who have replied about finding the installation of the centerstand was difficult. I guess I didn't get a particularly "sloppy" one. It's probably difficult to know how much tolerance to put on the hole diameters and spacing without having Honda's drawings to work from. The fit on mine is like BA's, except getting the bolts in is not an option at present. My round files are a bit too small to do the job with creating a notchy surface, so I think I'll take it in to work and ask the mechanical engineer in my group if I can drop by his shop with it to clean up the holes.

Having said all that, I am actually glad I took the original bolts off. A couple of them are quite rusty on the threads. It's always struck me as being a little odd that Honda had matching bosses on the opposing sides of the frame tubes but didn't provide bolts long enough to engage or even plastic caps to prevent water entry.
Hard as rock. Tough as nails. Dense as concrete.

1995 Honda Magna
2002 Honda Interceptor

Sledge Hammer

Hard as rock. Tough as nails. Dense as concrete.

1995 Honda Magna
2002 Honda Interceptor

Magnum Magna

Robert
Better to be exploited then not exploited.
07 Ultra, 07 Boulevard w/ sidecar (2+2=4)

Matthew 13:19 NT ... This is the seed sown along the path

Magniac

I've been lurking this thread, and double-checked all measurements on bolt holes. I found out that the front holes are indeed too low. All units in stock will be modified before shipping, and anyone who has received a stand that has the problem can alleviate it by using a 5/16" diameter round file and slotting the forward hole upward about 1/32" to 1/16". After making the modification, you should paint the bare metal with a shot of Rustoleum paint.  I apologize for the trouble, and I promise all future units will have proper hole alignment. The fixture had indeed gotten somehow misaligned, and the holes were drilled too low.
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Sledge Hammer

Thanks for the follow-up, Dobie. You've anticipated what I was wondering, which was how much to remove. Too little is obvious, but too much and it will work up and down on the bolts. I am going to try to modify mine this weekend after a trip to Sears for the right size file.
Hard as rock. Tough as nails. Dense as concrete.

1995 Honda Magna
2002 Honda Interceptor

Magnum Magna

Quote from: Magnum Magna on October 14, 2008, 11:17:02 PM
Quote from: Jester on October 14, 2008, 10:52:28 PM
is it worth it?

I second that. 

I was reading to fast.

I thought it said it is worth it but it said is it worth it.

Yes it is worth it.
Robert
Better to be exploited then not exploited.
07 Ultra, 07 Boulevard w/ sidecar (2+2=4)

Matthew 13:19 NT ... This is the seed sown along the path