Engine Kill

[Greg Cothern]

Working on some research for something please help by providing your method of killing the engine on your Magna..  Thanks.

[Dlcarrales]

Since swapping the regulator out on Friday I have been using the kill switch.

[TLRam1]

Since swapping the regulator out on Friday I have been using the kill switch.

David, (and anyone else) can you post the info here about your regulator failure. I am keeping the info together for anyone to see.

http://www.magnaownersoftexas.com/forums/index.php?topic=2622.0 

[Magnum Magna]

kill switch

[BudMan]

Kill switch off, then back on, then switch.
I do that on all of the motors except the Harley, (no kill switch or rectifier.)

[L J VFR]

I understand the meaning of the poll here, but I have a question?

Are we hurting out bikes by turning it off with key?   Is the proper way to turn our bikes off is to flip  the kill switch?    Just wondering where this is going?   

[Greg Cothern]

I personally believe that killing with the key is hurting things.  They would not have put a engine kill switch if they didnt believe it would help.  Just me $.02 worth.

[L J VFR]

I personally believe that killing with the key is hurting things.  They would not have put a engine kill switch if they didnt believe it would help.  Just me $.02 worth.

You may have something going here Greg!!!

I did find this however on an info board when I googled this question,  came up on a Honda board.  Still browsing, (gotta work late tonight)



Re: Kill Switch, Center Stand

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Like many others, I learned to use the cutoff switch in the MSF Class. One reason is that when you really need it - you will be well versed in finding it. I might try using my horn more, because on the few occasions where I needed that, I turned on my blinkers instead - but I digress.

A friend told me to stop using the cutoff because it would cause me to leave the key on and run down the battery. I did not listen. Then one morning a month or so back, I could not find my key, went to the Rebel and found it in the ignition - in the on position. Needless to say I drove the cage to work that day. Now I use the key to turn it off.

My new Honda 599 also cuts off when I put the side stand down - but lets not go there today.

[L J VFR]

I personally believe the reason the kill switch is on your throttle side where you can reach it is to be a second option of killing your engine.  More importantly though, it is a safety feature.   Something happens and your bike engine tries to run away (over rev) , throttle get stuck, etc.  you can shut the engine off without taking your hands off of the handlebars.    But I could be blowing smoke too!!!

[Chad in Michigan]

I'm pretty sure that the reason they put a kill switch on a bike is mainly for saftey's sake imagine taking your hand off the bars to reach the key if the throttle stuck wide open.. but hey, what do i know? i'll look at the schematic, but when you turn of the key or flip the switch, it still accomplishes the same task, turning off the bike. maybe using the switch turns off different things or in a different order.

[Chad in Michigan]

from the looks of the schematic, when you turn off the bike with the run/kill switch, you are cutting +12v from the coils and also a +12v wire to the ignition module. when you turn off the key, it cuts power to all things on the fuse panel, including the power sent to the run/kill switch itself (via the wire coming from the fuse box, fuse labeled ignition), which in turn would do the exact same thing as using the run/kill switch.

[Curtis_Valk]

I agree with Lance and Chad on the reason for the kill switch on the handlebars (safety).  But I always kill my bikes with the kick stand safety.

Curtis

[Greg Cothern]

Sorry I had assumed that it was a given that for safety reasons it was put there.

HOWEVER I believe it is also there to keep from SPIKING the reg/rec.  But I am not a electronics wizard in the least!

[lragan]

If the ignition switch disconnected the R/R from the battery or from the stator, then a spike could occur.  Looking at the schematic, though, this is not the case.  These connections are never broken by either switch.  Only the 30A main fuse can remove the battery from the R/R.  The R/R is permanently wired to the alternator stator.

I am afraid I agree with Chad on this one.  I can't see how it could make any difference.  Either switch stops the engine, which stops the alternator.  There should be no spike in either case.  Dropping the side stand with the bike in gear does the same thing.

[Charles S Otwell]

I use the kick stand to kill the engine for safety reasons, it keeps me from accidently getting off the bike and dropping it. I've heard of many people gassing up then getting off and dropping their bike because they forgot to put the kick stand down. I have a bad habit of pulling up to a group and sitting on the bike visiting for a few minutes before I get off, the kick stand first then the key, forgetting the key for a minute doesn't hurt as bad  .