bummed about my bike...

swader · October 14, 2009, 07:08:06 AM

Quote from: TLRam1 on October 14, 2009, 01:09:06 AM
Quote from: swader on October 13, 2009, 07:01:17 PM
Okay so I got a new battery

We were only joking we didn't really mean for you to go Buuyy a battery, we knew it was something else.

Now you know one end is good (battry), check the other end (starter) and see if it's good.

W/O looking does someone know if you can get to the Positive Lug on the starter? If so you can take the positive lead on the jumper cable and touch where the positive lead is attached to the starter, negative lead also has to be attached to the bike.

You will by-pass all the safety features so make sure your bike is in neutral.

This will tell you if the starter is good, if so, check and clean all your leads and connections along with starter switch, kill switch, maybe some I am leaving out etc. Once you find out if your starter is good or not will determine where to from there.

yes it is visible, and i tried to jump it off that way and i got nothing.. but b4 i rule it as a faulty starter, should i get back into the crank case and see if i put it together wrong? would the crankcase cover fit back on flush if it wasnt??

Chad in Michigan · October 14, 2009, 08:17:30 AM

when you put the case cover back on, did you remember to put the washer/spacer back on the starter reduction gear shaft? it goes on first, before the gear, if you even took it off of there. if you take it apart, make sure to oil the shaft it sits on before installing the gear. i eliminated all my funny starting noises by just oiling that shaft when i replaced my clutch. The pics below are of the starter reduction gear and the other pic is where it would be located (near the starter)

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Capt. Howard · October 14, 2009, 03:16:38 PM

Old school tells me you should go back inside the case. I bet you'll will find the problem. Logic says you didn't have starter trouble before you opened the case to replace the clutch!!

TLRam1 · October 14, 2009, 03:20:05 PM

If you tried going directly to the starter and it's not functioning that would be a good place to start. Diagnosing over the net is sometimes a shot gun effect. Another thought is make sure your motor spins as it should and not impeding your starter from working. You may have to free up your starter from all loads, ie: remove starter or take off reduction gear, and see if it spins when you hook it to juice. Someone else can elude to the easiest way to do this as I have never taken the starter out.

What have you done or taken apart from that area?

Look at Chads post and see if that would affect you.

TLRam1 · October 14, 2009, 03:21:27 PM

Quote from: Capt. Howard on October 14, 2009, 03:16:38 PM
Old school tells me you should go back inside the case. I bet you'll will find the problem. Logic says you didn't have starter trouble before you opened the case to replace the clutch!!

I forgot about that....yes, sounds like something is amiss.

Lurkin · October 15, 2009, 09:33:59 AM

Can't add anything to the diag going on. Lots of good advise. But if you decide you do need a starter contact me cuz I have an extra used one that I bought a few years ago when I was diaging a different problem. It will be MUCH less then a new one.

Rod.

roboto65 · October 15, 2009, 09:45:05 AM

I would pull the plugs and turn it over that would take the compression out of the picture other than that worn brushes maybe ??

swader · October 15, 2009, 07:56:25 PM

Quote from: chadschloss78 on October 14, 2009, 08:17:30 AM
when you put the case cover back on, did you remember to put the washer/spacer back on the starter reduction gear shaft? it goes on first, before the gear, if you even took it off of there. if you take it apart, make sure to oil the shaft it sits on before installing the gear. i eliminated all my funny starting noises by just oiling that shaft when i replaced my clutch. The pics below are of the starter reduction gear and the other pic is where it would be located (near the starter)

yep i saw it fall out and i put it back on but on the other side of that gear, put it back on the other side and WOOP!! started RIGHT UP!! Thanks man!!

And thanks to everyone else for yalls help! i really couldnt have done it without yall!

Chad in Michigan · October 15, 2009, 09:18:54 PM

Cool

lragan · October 19, 2009, 06:11:36 PM

Quote from: lragan on October 13, 2009, 06:03:39 PM
... So, I went to Wal-Mart and bought their $13 battery maintainer for the second bike, since it has worked so well on my first one. It comes with a "pig-tail" that connects directly to the battery and leads out under the seat with a two wire connector that matches one on the charger. I leave both the bikes plugged into the maintainers when parked for any length of time. They charge to the required voltage, then monitor and trickle charge as necessary.

Today I got an e-mail from J&P Cycles, and one of the advertised specials was a "super smart" battery charger for $59.95. When I examine it carefully, it looks exactly like the $13 Wal-Mart ones I bought, except for the paint on the case. Same lights, same locations, same pigtails and connectors, same dimensions. Makes one wonder who is actually "super smart", doesn't it?