Dyna Beads how's it going !!!

[lragan]

Actually, Terry, when the bottle was out of balance, the shot tended to move toward the weight, making the imbalance worse.  The shot had no effect only in a balanced bottle. 

The dyna-beads, on the other hand, tended to cling to the inside of the bottle, and would imbalance an otherwise balanced bottle (without the bolt taped on the outside).

There may have been too much weight in shot, and it might have worked with less, I don't know. 

[hootmon]

I have a question about installing the beads, several suggestion on filling thru the valve stem have been offered. My question is, can the beads be added while the tire is being mounted, that is assuming your replacing the tire anyway?

I tried that, but being a car tire, I had to make multiple attempts to get the tire mounted and got quite a bit of moisture in the tire from the mounting process.. So I wound up taking the beads back out, getting the tire mounted, then putting the beads in..
If it were for a motorcycle tire, pre-installing would probably be fine..

I did not find the baster method all that bad, and would do it again..

[Slydynbye]

I keep wondering about those things since they seem a lot like snake oil to me.
What material are they?

How about this for a test, get a tire mounted at a shop with a spin balancer, check the balance, add the beads, re-spin and check to see if they really do balance properly.

It seems that under acceleration and/or deceleration the tire would unbalance and then presumably re-balance.  I'm sticking to lead weights, things that move around make me nervous.

[dgc67]

Due to a small static charge built up between the bead and rubber interaction, a few will remain attached to the tire circumference, but only a very small amount. The rest fall to the bottom and reposition themselves when the tire starts rolling again.

How do you know??  Clear tire??      

I have aquestion about installing the beads, several suggestion on filling thru the valve stem have been offered. My question is, can the beads be added while the tire is being mounted, that is assuming your replacing the tire anyway?

I would put them through the stem after the tire has a chance to dry after the install.  That is what I did anyway. since I used a "lubricant" when installing the tire.  I let them sit awhile first.

I still LOVE mine.  I have around 5k miles or more and have had NO issues at all.

[roboto65]

Ok well snake oil or not I will have some for the MOOT for a reduced price of 1.50 an oz do not think shipping will be much so if anybody needs some let me know !!

[TLRam1]

What I have thought about doing is...balance a tire first, than add these.

[dgc67]

How about this for a test, get a tire mounted at a shop with a spin balancer, check the balance, add the beads, re-spin and check to see if they really do balance properly.

The shop I bought my beads from says they have a balance machine and won't use it anymore.  every tire they do gets dyna beads or balanced by someone else.

What I have thought about doing is...balance a tire first, than add these.

I think that should work well.  Especially for car tires and have thought about doing it on my Suburban.  Seems the tires need to be balanced every 10k miles or so anyway so maybe a good balance and the beads inside might keep it good for the life of the tire.  I HATE going and sitting and waiting on a balance/rotate.  free or not.  I would rather just do the rotate myself at home in half the time.

[TLRam1]

What I have thought about doing is...balance a tire first, than add these.

I think that should work well. Seems the tires need to be balanced every 10k miles or so anyway so maybe a good balance and the beads inside might keep it good for the life of the tire.  I HATE going and sitting and waiting on a balance/rotate.  free or not.  I would rather just do the rotate myself at home in half the time.

You said it better than I.

[Hoss83]

I'm just getting in on this...I'm not so much of a "why or how does it work" kind of guy and proving the theory is not for me. I leave that to the guys who have the inquiring minds and time to test it out! I just want to know if it works plain and simple. I've been the guinea pig more than once...some good and some not so good. I'm not actually the guinea pig here someone else gets credit for that. I trusted him and glad I did.
I'm currently running dyna beads in my 86 V65 and my 83 V65. I did this when putting on new tires on the 86 and through the valve stem on the 83. 1oz front and 2oz rear. Through the stem just takes more time and is a small pain but nothing like a non-anesthesia vasectomy.
I had already put new radials on my 83, naturally the balance weights were wrong especially the front. I was checking local shops for balancing my wheels. Don't remember exactly what the cost was but it was high to me. Took the old weights off and quickly realized approaching 50 mph was no good, the front was way out.
My friend Rod told me about dyna beads. I installed on both bikes.
My wheels are balanced perfectly at any speed. The 86 I ride most always has never been so smooth. I know the radials might have a little to do with that but the front (and rear) on the 83 is smooth as glass now. The 86 always felt good but when I put the radials and dyna beads on I was amazed in the smoothness. I'm not trying to tie the beads with the use of radials it's what I'm using and could possibly make some difference, I don't know. I have 2 V45's both are getting new tires soon but not radials. I will be installing the beads. I don't think it will make any difference (radial or bias) when it comes to the performance of the beads. I have since learned that you can recover and re-use the beads, not sure what the bead company says about that but it has been done successfully several times. Hope this helps.....

[roboto65]

Well anyone that needs some let me know !!! Shoot me a PM with how much you need !!!

[lragan]

Thanks, Hoss. 

I am going on the assumption that my experiment is flawed, not my experience -- which, though much more limited than yours, yields similar results.  I have never ridden a bike that was this smooth.

I may rip the weights off the front and add beads to that tire as well.

The beads are made of ceramic material.  Ceramics have to be fired from a "green" (malleable) state, and I expect the price of the beads relates to the manufacturing process.  I haven't a clue how they pull this off.

The point of my experiment was not to disprove the value of the beads, but to find out if other materials would work.  Number 12 shot is similar in diameter, but made of lead or steel, much cheaper.

I haven't given up yet, I am just in a pause while I do other things...

[Hoss83]

Lawrence,
Thanks is to you....You think outside the box! Which is exactly what it takes sometimes to find an alternative solution. We all benefit from guys like you. I admire and appreciate reading you and others experiments, testing of a theory or sharing your knowledge. Successful or not...I learn something.

[hootmon]

Lawrence,
Thanks is to you....You think outside the box! Which is exactly what it takes sometimes to find an alternative solution. We all benefit from guys like you. I admire and appreciate reading you and others experiments, testing of a theory or sharing your knowledge. Successful or not...I learn something.

Yeah, what Hoss said... And besides, It's much easier getting bird shot into a tire.. That whole putting ceramic pellets through a valve stem is taxing on an unpatient person like me..

One Kablam , and at least a few of the birdshot pellets have to get inside the tire!!!

[lragan]

...One Kablam , and at least a few of the birdshot pellets have to get inside the tire!!!

Gee, Hoot, do you think there might be deleterious side effects to this injection method?

[hootmon]

Gee, Hoot, do you think there might be deleterious side effects to this injection method?

Just whip out those 50 cent words dude ..
Confuse us all..