3rd Gen Performance Parts

[Justin]

Hey all been a while since i've posted, been busy this winter.

I'm just trying to get some performance parts for this coming riding season and had some questions for the community.

I'm looking to change the petcock on bike to one of the Highflow Pingle petcocks either the "Guzzler" or "Power-Flo" model and was curious if it was just a straight bolt on change or if it required some more fabrication work to get it to fit, also if anyone knows the thread size of the tank spigot for the petcock that would be helpful.

I also need to buy a new set of plug wires and was going to change the coils to Dynatek coils at the same time and i was wondering what people were using for the primary and secondary resistances, and if there was any modification required to the ignition coil bracket for mounting.

I was also wondering if anyone's ever ran a 43/15 setup on the Magna and if so was the acceleration/gas mileage noticeably different over a 40/15 or 43/16 setup?

Thanks Justin

[Chad in Michigan]

WOW a guy after my own heart, lol. i have alot of performance goodies on my bike. you won't need the guzzler model. this one bolts right up from pingel, but do yourself a favor, get it from dave dodge aka DRP performance parts, it's going to be cheaper. here's the pingel number:

Pingel Fuel Valve:
Item Number      Qty Ordered  Qty on BO  Qty Shipped  Unit Price   
4321-CH                    1          0            1        91.2         91.20

I also am running the dyna coils, 3 ohm coils. rear one bolts up pretty good, front one i made a small bracket for and truned the coil a little different than stock. also using dyna 8mm wires, dyna 3000 ignition module. Attached are some pics. I am also running larger main jets/slow jets, k&n air filter, vance & hines pipes. I have a few more goodies to put in like the 43/15 combo, kevlar clutch, and a new shift star/detent arm/roller bearing combo from factory performance parts. When installing the  new petcock, i bypassed the stock vacuum diaphram fuel shutoff and went straight into a pingle 1 into 2 fuel filter and then ran new lines from the filter right to the carb banks. Good luck with your project!



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[Chad in Michigan]

More pics for you.

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[TLRam1]

You have my favorite stock color on these bikes Chad, I think it was only used in 95. I would trade my body set for that color. 

[hootmon]

i have alot of performance goodies on my bike.
I have a few more goodies to put in like the 43/15 combo, kevlar clutch, and a new shift star/detent arm/roller bearing combo from factory performance parts.

Chad -
  I think when you get all this done, You are just going to have to take the saddlebags off the bike..
It will be just way to fast to try and be a "cruiser", or is that your plan.. To make it into a real "Sleeper" bike that nobody expects to be "That fast!"
                                             

I would believe that with the 43/15 combination, your going to be running some pretty high revs at 75 MPH.. Probably between 6.5 and 7.5K RPM's... So, again, you probably won't be needing those Saddle bags...

It just so happens I know someone that might want to buy those saddlebags if they work with stock pipes... (me)..

I love the color too.. We have already had that discussion.. I had a '76 750 in that color.. Very Nice..

[Justin]

Thanks for all the info Chad, yah you and me both have high test running in our veins, whatever I can do to make the Magna faster if I had the time and money i'd send the whole motor to DRP and get the stage 2 mods done to it. Unfortunately Dave doesn't sell Pingle parts anymore.

I'll be running pretty much the same setup as you, all SS cables, Dyna 3000+coils+wires, Pingle Petcock, #115 mains #45 slows, K&N, Vance&Hines, and i need to replace the chain and sprockets and was thinking of going 15/43 and just saying screw the fuel mileage lets go for giddy up and go.  

I also have a pretty sweet LED light kit on my bike that i want to expand, as well as getting rid of the license plate bracket/rear turn signals/brake light for a single LED strip light that does Run/Stop/Turn and side mounting the license plate off of the swingarm or something.

If you can let me know how the Kevlar clutch performs that would be awesome I find  the stock one right now has no grab until about the last 1/4"-3/8" of the clutch lever.

What are you hoping to improve by replacing the "shift star/detent arm/roller bearing combo"??

Cheers,

Justin

[TLRam1]

The Kevlar clutch hooks up nicely with a more confident grab, you do need to use Barnetts springs which are heavy than stock ones.

[hootmon]

The Kevlar clutch hooks up nicely with a more confident grab, you do need to use Barnetts springs which are heavy than stock ones.

Yeah - I replaced my clutch with a heavy duty model with heavier springs.. (don't think it was Barnetts).. It makes heavy stop and go traffic much more of an exercise session on my left arm.. If I did more of it, I would look like half a Popeye, only on the left side though! (all forearm, no bicep)

[lragan]

Yeah - I replaced my clutch with a heavy duty model with heavier springs.. (don't think it was Barnetts).. It makes heavy stop and go traffic much more of an exercise session on my left arm.. If I did more of it, I would look like half a Popeye, only on the left side though! (all forearm, no bicep)

The Harley I bought in 1963 was a '52 model that had been converted from tank shift and suicide clutch to foot shift with hand clutch -- trouble is, no one bothered to replace the clutch spring.  I developed a heck of a grip in my left hand!! -- Also learned to shift by matching speeds with the clutch left engaged. 

[TLRam1]

In reference to Barnetts springs, their regular springs are stiffer, I never used their HD springs. You can tell it's firmer but not enough as you mentioned Hoot.

I'm a big fan of Barnetts, no reason other than their clutch and springs fits my purpose in just the right amount for a street bike.

[MarylandMagnav45]

WOW a guy after my own heart, lol. i have alot of performance goodies on my bike. you won't need the guzzler model. this one bolts right up from pingel, but do yourself a favor, get it from dave dodge aka DRP performance parts, it's going to be cheaper. here's the pingel number:

Pingel Fuel Valve:
Item Number      Qty Ordered  Qty on BO  Qty Shipped  Unit Price   
4321-CH                    1          0            1        91.2         91.20

I also am running the dyna coils, 3 ohm coils. rear one bolts up pretty good, front one i made a small bracket for and truned the coil a little different than stock. also using dyna 8mm wires, dyna 3000 ignition module. Attached are some pics. I am also running larger main jets/slow jets, k&n air filter, vance & hines pipes. I have a few more goodies to put in like the 43/15 combo, kevlar clutch, and a new shift star/detent arm/roller bearing combo from factory performance parts. When installing the  new petcock, i bypassed the stock vacuum diaphram fuel shutoff and went straight into a pingle 1 into 2 fuel filter and then ran new lines from the filter right to the carb banks. Good luck with your project!

Everything you did?

Total Cost?

Increased performance?  By how much over stock?

[Chad in Michigan]

well it finally warmed up here this week. i got a chance to work on the bike. i installed the 115 mains( up from the 112's) , went down to two shims, and i have the 45 pilots turned down to 2.5 turns out. i also tried to bench sync the carbs, i could see they were slightly off. i have the gauges, but have yet to hook them up. before i took the carbs apart, i installed new irridium plugs, gapped them to .35 (slightly larger than needed, but wanted to see what this would do) and ran it in the garage, up/down the street for a minute. i then checked one of the plugs. it was sooty. i had the 'd' screws out to 3.5 turns. after changing the jets & removing a shim, the throttle response is quicker and snappier. i only rode it up/down the block. my battery needs to be charged and i know it will die on me at a light. i did notice that when the battery is low, it will act like it is misfiring or out of gas on a carb. I also noticed the 3rd shim I had installed was the same thickness as the stock shim. the DD shim I have is thinner. I left the stock shim and the DD shim installed.  I have yet to ride it yet but i think it'll be nice. I'll post back when I can get 'er on the road.

[Chad in Michigan]

You have my favorite stock color on these bikes Chad, I think it was only used in 95. I would trade my body set for that color. 

AFAIK I think it was only used on the '95's. it sure is pretty when i clean it up and wash it, but it's been awhile, lol
hoot sait he had that color on a bike he used to have too. i do know that it is called 'candy glory red' and i have 2 touch up bottles. i should get the paint code off the bottle and post that too.

[Chad in Michigan]

Thanks for all the info Chad, yah you and me both have high test running in our veins, whatever I can do to make the Magna faster if I had the time and money i'd send the whole motor to DRP and get the stage 2 mods done to it. Unfortunately Dave doesn't sell Pingle parts anymore.

I'll be running pretty much the same setup as you, all SS cables, Dyna 3000+coils+wires, Pingle Petcock, #115 mains #45 slows, K&N, Vance&Hines, and i need to replace the chain and sprockets and was thinking of going 15/43 and just saying screw the fuel mileage lets go for giddy up and go.  

I also have a pretty sweet LED light kit on my bike that i want to expand, as well as getting rid of the license plate bracket/rear turn signals/brake light for a single LED strip light that does Run/Stop/Turn and side mounting the license plate off of the swingarm or something.

If you can let me know how the Kevlar clutch performs that would be awesome I find  the stock one right now has no rgrab until about the last 1/4"-3/8" of the clutch lever. 

What are you hoping to improve by replacing the "shift star/detent arm/roller bearing combo"??

Cheers,

Justin

The shift star/denent arm will make shifts quicker, you can bang 1st to 2nd with no missed shifts or you can downshift hard and no missed shifts. check out factorypro.com (ithink) and there you will find all kinds of performance goodies for various bikes. i also have a pingel electric easy shift i plan to install on here too. i have all the wiring nad electronic delay box/push buttons hooked up. just need to fab up a bracket to hold it in place. i have yet to figure out where i want it. BA on here is planning on helping me fab up a bracket. SO far, i've been able to use the pushbuttons to cut out power to the coils and that lets the trans unload, and  i shift with my foot without the clutch.  after the solenoid is mounted, that will shift the bike without the clutch. you still have the option to shift manually if you want to. 

it will look something similar to the pics below.

by the way, i found this pic of a guy on a magna doing wheelies. if i remember correctly, he had 15/43 gearing too

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[Chad in Michigan]

A few more pics for you. the detent arm on the left is the stock one. you can see the one on the right has a roller bearing which will make it smoother and the spring is heavier for a positive feel. i also think i need to repack the mufflers. it sure is loud this year

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