Vent Chamber location, 3rd Gen?

Started by hop along, May 31, 2012, 08:12:05 PM

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hop along

So to make a long story short, while sealing my gas tank with a tank liner, I managed to seal the vent chamber.
Aside from drilling a small hole in the gas cap, or next to the fuel filler hole (probably not EPA approved...) I see two options:
1-strip the sealer and start over
2-figure out where the chamber is, and if it is accessible by way of the fuel filler.

I've already tried blowing air at about 100psi backwards through the vent line to try to burst the liner so to speak... no luck.
I've also tried dribbling lacquer down the vent tube, to dissolve the liner, but... too much liquid in too small a hole, it is essentially just sitting on top of air and won't work its way down the vent tube.
I did manage to run a small wire a good 8" or so up through the vent line but I suspect there are too many turns for the wire to push through anymore.

And to answer questions before they are ineveitably asked... yes I do need to seal it.  Pinhole leaks on a Valkna tank that served well when I lived in Ohio.. and then moving to Oklahoma in the middle of a 100 degree heat wave last August did it in.
I *knew* I should have kept the bike in the air conditioned living room  :lol:

Anyways, assistance and/or pictures are appreciated.  I've not found anything online and I can't locate my photos from the Valkna tank assembly I did.
Hop Along
Hop Along
No longer in Norman, OK
2003 Magna
2015 DR650, partly sponsored by a 1973 CT-90 and 2005 CRF 230F....

SkyRide

I just did a similar thing to my 83 tank.  First gen vent is a metal tube that runs under the tank to the front then bends up and goes inside; my plug was only at the end of the tube inside the tank.

I was able to get a bent metal strap through the fill hole and scrape enough of it loose to get decent flow.  If that hadn't worked, I was prepared to cut the vent tube a half inch before it enters the tank so I would have a straight piece of tubing to work on.  I figured I could bypass the metal tube with a flexible hose clamped to the stub where I made the cut.

Rick
83 VF750C
San Antonio

Magnum Magna

If I understand you. You have a valk tank on a Magna.
My vent also got clogged.  I would blow it open with air and then it would eventually get clogged up again.
I eventually modified the valk. gas cap.  Don't remember the details but did a search on the Internet on how to modify the cap.  I thought the first gen vented with the cap because I almost got a first gen cap but decided to get a Valk cap and modify it.
Robert
Better to be exploited then not exploited.
07 Ultra, 07 Boulevard w/ sidecar (2+2=4)

Matthew 13:19 NT ... This is the seed sown along the path

TLRam1

If you are sitting on the bike, the vent tube is in the top right quadrant around the filler neck. If you have an inspection mirror (dental mirror) you can see it, you might be able to feel it also if you have long fingers.
Terry

My mama always told me never put off till tomorrow people you can kill today.

Allen, TX.

74 GT750 - 75 GT380 – 01 Magna - 03 KX 250-01 – 04 WR 450 - 74 T500 Titan

Imabass

will a steel braid wire knock it loose? What about a solid wire like a coat hanger?

hootmon

Quote from: Imabass on June 01, 2012, 07:48:22 PM
will a steel braid wire knock it loose? What about a solid wire like a coat hanger?
I would think stranded wire would be the way to go... Stiff, but flexible enough to go around bends..
"accidents aren't predictable, don't be a DUMBASS" - MD Dan

roboto65

Well since I am learning the Banjo strings are cheap you could use the wound one and may chuck it up in a drill and see if that works cut it at an angle and it will have a point.
Allen Rugg 
76 Jeep CJ

The adventure begins where your plans fall through.

hop along

Part of today's entertainment is going at it with the assistance of an inspection mirror (thanks for the tips... I hadn't thought of that!)
I'm using the vent chamber still attached to the Valkyrie tank pan as a reference, hoping the vent holes are in relatively the same locations to start working away. 
Hopefully I will have good news to post by Monday.
Thanks again!
Hop Along, whose tool collection has been growing these past few weeks  :-D
Hop Along
No longer in Norman, OK
2003 Magna
2015 DR650, partly sponsored by a 1973 CT-90 and 2005 CRF 230F....

roboto65

Tool collecting is one of my favorite hobbys also
Allen Rugg 
76 Jeep CJ

The adventure begins where your plans fall through.

Jerry G Turner

I have a garage full of tools that I have only used one.
MOOT#428
Arlington, Texas
I'm not young enough to know everything

Greg Cothern

Quote from: roboto65 on June 02, 2012, 10:02:51 AM
Tool collecting is one of my favorite hobbys also

AND that is why Jesse and I had to buy him screwdrivers for the first carb session he held at his house.....
Greg Cothern
00 Valkyrie Interstate
96 Magna 
Previously owned:
87 Super
96 Magna project bike
95 Magna "Pay it forward"   

TLRam1

I forgot the little detail you are working on a Valk conversion tank, I don't know the location of those, only for a stock 3rd Gen Magna.
Terry

My mama always told me never put off till tomorrow people you can kill today.

Allen, TX.

74 GT750 - 75 GT380 – 01 Magna - 03 KX 250-01 – 04 WR 450 - 74 T500 Titan

roboto65

Hey did not say how I collected them just that I like it  :lol: :lol: :lol:
Allen Rugg 
76 Jeep CJ

The adventure begins where your plans fall through.

lragan

I am a tool junkie.  What finally broke the habit was I purchased a "nice to have" tool, brought it home, and discovered I already had one in the tool cabinet -- which I had never used!!  So now, I buy a tool only if I need it, and don't respond to the sale fliers and other come-ons.
Lawrence
'96 Blue Austin TX
Ride to Live, Live to Ride longer Wear a Helmet

TLRam1

Quote from: lragan on June 02, 2012, 09:55:14 PM
  So now, I buy a tool only if I need it, and don't respond to the sale fliers and other come-ons.

Trying to do the same. I found a brand new 134a AC hose and gauge kit I never remember having.
Terry

My mama always told me never put off till tomorrow people you can kill today.

Allen, TX.

74 GT750 - 75 GT380 – 01 Magna - 03 KX 250-01 – 04 WR 450 - 74 T500 Titan